I like that Joanna! I read her the latest version this morning after hearing
which she said: 'That sounds lovely. Now what does it mean in English?'
Best
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joanna Boulter" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: Beginnings of a poem
> Are the books not David and the dolls Vicky? Or is that too simplistic?
>
> joanna
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Douglas Barbour" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 5:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Beginnings of a poem
>
>
> >I found this exchange interesting, as was the poem, however yet
> > incomplete, but I would tend to agree with what you say here, Rebecca,
> > if only that I too still found the books coming in all out of
> > nowhere....
> >
> > Doug
> > On 2-Apr-06, at 3:45 PM, Rebecca Seiferle wrote:
> >
> >>> And she's been egging me on to write a poem called
> >>> roughly Talking +to+
> >>> Dolls for some weeks. I think Vicky's interest in
> >>> this is very much on the
> >>> lines of dolls representing women's interiority:
> >>> she'd love to be able to
> >>> write on the subject herself but struggles for the
> >>> words, although she has
> >>> the concepts.
> >>>
> >>> I'm certainly wary about books being framework-like
> >>> in the poem, but the
> >>> shelves irresistably suggest them.
> >>
> >> I'm glad you found my comments of some help, and, yes,
> >> I was more or less saying that dolls can represent
> >> women's interiority, as they do in Ravikovich's work,
> >> among others. Perhaps, Vicky should try writing on the
> >> subject herself, since we all struggle with words, one
> >> way or another.
> >>
> >> In looking at it again, I like the 'docks' in this
> >> line
> >>> for the raised docks of shelves.
> >> and it made me think, given your description of the
> >> facts, that one of the issues with the framework is
> >> that it is in 'your' pov, whereas the dolls are in
> >> hers, so that when it ends with 'books' 'for the
> >> raised docks of shelves' it moves from her dolls to
> >> your books, it would seem from what you say that for
> >> her, it's more
> >>
> >>> breathing undertow as you dressed
> >>> them anew
> >>>
> >>> for the raised docks
> >>
> >> and that the poem might be more compelling for being
> >> given over to her purposes.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Rebecca
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