I understand this take on it, Mark, but can't quite bring myself to
throw Eliot entirely out. Especially some of the poems before TWL.
Still for me too, the real learning came from that other 'tradition,'
Pound-Williams & on down (with of course some important Canadians in
there later on).
Doug
On 27-Mar-06, at 3:23 PM, Mark Weiss wrote:
> I'll dispute that paternity, for myself. For Olson Eliot was a
> counter-example and only enters the work, in that way, in The
> Kingfishers. Not a hint in Williams. Nor in Pound, where the influence
> runs the other way. And he's barely apparent on the other side of the
> American divide.
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