Which puts me straight in mind of Orwell's "Shooting an elephant" - one of the greatest essays I've ever read...
Cal
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poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Mark Weiss
Sent: Wednesday, 29 March 2006 11:33 AM
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Subject: Re: A serious query, was Re: PS. Re: Help! The grass is singing
Roethke is still read, and some poets are passinate about him, but
he's no longer central to anyone's concerns as far as I know.
I have no idea how anyone can fail to see Bly's consistent profound
self-serving and dishonesty. Years ago I heard him read what was one
of his signature poems, about coming upon a sea lion that was dying
of the effects of an oil spill. For seven days he came back to look
at the beast, describing its agony in excquisite detail. On his last
visit it was dead, and Bly had a Wordsworthian epiphany. Me, I was
thinking, why thre fuck didn't he get a gun and put the poor thing
out of its misery, or at least inform the ASPCA? Ah, but then he
wouldn't have got the poem. I'd contend that my question is
inevitable unless one wears blinders.
Mark
At 07:10 PM 3/28/2006, you wrote:
>Thanks Jill,
>
>I ask because as I read the works talked about by people here, I
>often find myself lost. Why has Roethke slipped away? Why do people
>so dislike Robert Bly? I tend to forget the poet and read the poem.
>To use a crass analogy, all sportspeople have an 'off' day. Some
>perform consistently, some in sporadic brilliance, some in an arc of
>sustained brilliance. It's all the same game though.
>
>Cal.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and
>poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Jill Jones
>Sent: Wednesday, 29 March 2006 11:03 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: A serious query, was Re: PS. Re: Help! The grass is singing
>
>
>Hi Caleb,
>
>I was getting at the kinds of poems that use big, sometimes
>lazy/obvious images,
>often as a grounding metaphor for the poem. A few years ago there
>seemed to be a
>lot of sequences in Australian that worked like that. I just didn't
>believe them
>in the way I was being asked to by the poem. And it all seemed overblown.
>
>BTW, I know that in this respect, I'm using 'Deep Image' a bit
>inaccurately but
>in the way it is used a bit inaccurately around here, in my experience.
>
>I don't have problems with images, as would be obvious. I work a lot
>with visual
>artists as well. And I'm no stranger to sequences.
>
>Cheers,
>Jill
>
>
>Quoting Caleb Cluff <[log in to unmask]>:
>
> >> Deep Image line (oh image is big big big for a lot of them)
> >
> > Could you clarify that for me a little Jill?
> >
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