As one of the List admins I try to just let everyone get on with stuff,
and not interfere at all.. most of the time it works, sometimes it
doesn't.
Apologies for any inconvenience.
The groundrules set out in the introductory email for the list say this:
Purpose of the list
"The list is to promote discussion about VLEs, their implementation
and use, and we encourage contributions to the list on this topic.
Please don't post messages which are not related to VLEs in some way.
The list is owned by Ferl, an information service for all staff
working within the Post Compulsory Education sector. Ferl supports
individuals and organisations in making effective use of ILT."
I think Jon's posting was related to VLE's and their implementation, BUT
maybe not in the spirit of the list.
I would rather not add any more guidelines than are stated above.
I doubt if anyone will want to advertise on the list.
I suggest if there are any who feel strongly about this they contact me
directly off list, by mail or phone, and we can work things through if
needed.
It may be that we need to create a register of consultants, perhaps one
of our members could offer us a space on their VLE installation that
could be used for collaborative workspace/document sharing.
Rob Englebright
Services and Communities Manager FE
British Educational Communications and Technology Agency (Becta)
Millburn Hill Road, Science Park
Coventry CV4 7JJ
Tel: 07747 458121
Fax: 024 7641 1418
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-----Original Message-----
From: Virtual Learning Environments [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Philip Butler
Sent: 23 February 2006 12:10
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VLES] Consultancy Offered (A d v e r t)
You can't have it both ways Niki. I confess I don't understand your
argument.
Please can we establish some ground rules? The list is a useful source
of excellent information and expertise drawn from the educational
community. The downside is that it is sometimes abused or, more often,
guilty of bad practice.
We suffer a string of replies to discussion strands that don't
contribute anything (or more appropriate offlist), or change subject and
begin a new discussion under the old heading (more irritating for me -
the volumn of emails nowadays means that I have to be very selective in
what I read).
Sadly, if a list becomes irritating I suspect many people simply switch
off (leaving only the consultants to post to each other!). Surely, we
should be the exemplar of good practice.
Submitted with best intentions,
Philip
-----Original Message-----
From: Virtual Learning Environments [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of niki lambropoulos
Sent: 23 February 2006 10:46
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Consultancy Offered (A d v e r t)
You are right John,
but Jon Maber is not me or just anybody.
not only he developed a *good* system but he has detailed suggestions
based on people's needs for quality in e-learning. and this is the
definion of the good consultancy. haev you seen waht happened with
Haringey council and the 25m of your and my money because of bad data,
bad consultancy and bad moderation of their systems? I was wondering why
I had a parking ticket in Haringey displaying that I was parked in a
place I never parked the car.. might be not connected though :P
if somebody like Jon Maber goes for consultancy, I personally would like
to know.
so oyu are both right but I like knowing it :)
Best regards,
niki
--- "O'Donoghue, John R" <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> It is not so much irritation but abuse of a discussion list!
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Virtual Learning Environments
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Jon Maber
> Sent: 22 February 2006 14:38
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [VLES] Consultancy Offered (A d v e r t)
>
>
> The following is a commercial - I'll keep it short for those who are
> irritated by such things.
>
> I am pleased to announce that I now available for consultancy work
> related to VLEs. For further information please take a look at my new
> web site:
>
> jonmaber.co.uk
>
> I can be contacted at: [log in to unmask]
>
> Thanks for taking the time to read this Email.
>
> Jon Maber
>
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