On a completely anecdotal level, I agree with Peter on the 'odd' looking
machine and the space given to it. When I ride a tricycle I find that I
get much less close-cutting than I do on a bicycle, yet the rear end of
a trike, at +/- 30 inches, is barely broader than across the elbows of a
cyclist. It is just as well, because many cycle 'lanes' here are
designed for single track machines and one's offside wheel often
straddles the outside. Perhaps many motorists look for vehicles rather
than people?
Nicholas Oddy.
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Sent: 07 February 2006 11:17
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Subject: Re: The effect of cycle lanes on Cyclists' road space[Scanned]
It's actually just being constructed right now, but from the drivers'
perspective there'll be nothing out of the ordinary, from behind at
least: it just looks like a regular hybrid bike with (discretely
coloured) panniers. From the front the video camera might be visible
(if someone were looking closely!), but overtaking drivers won't see
this.
Ian
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On 7 Feb 2006, at 11:13, Peter Cox wrote:
> Hi
>
> One of the things I and other riders of 'non-conventional' Bikes
notice
> (anecdotally of course) is that riding a recumbent one rarely - if
> ever -
> gets cut up close, whereas on a diamond-frame it happens fairly
> frequently.
>
> The suspicion is that drivers are forced to think about something they
> do
> not recognise or that is out of the 'ordinary' rather than just
> mentally file it
> as street furniture. How is your instrumented bike equipped - does the
> kit
> alter its appearance at all?
>
> Peter Cox
> Programme Leader in Community Studies
> School of Social Science
> University of Chester
> Parkgate Road
> Chester CH1 4BJ
> 01244 375444 xt2039
>
>
> Quoting Ian Walker <[log in to unmask]>:
>
>> I emailed Pete Owens, who conducted that study, yesterday, to suggest
>> we do it again with our instrumented bike which measures overtaking
>> proximities. It would be great to see if those findings are supported
>> with accurate measures.
>>
>> Ian
>> -----
>> Dr Ian Walker,
>> Department of Psychology,
>> University of Bath,
>> Bath BA2 7AY,
>> England.
>>
>> Tel: +44 (0)1225 383908
>> E-mail: [log in to unmask] (academic)
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>> Website: www.drianwalker.com
>>
>> On 7 Feb 2006, at 10:43, Peter Cox wrote:
>>
>>> So does this mean that a full study should be undertaken? Anyone
> got
>>> time/money sources?
>>>
>>> Perhaps taking into account both gender and style/type of cycle
might
>>> be
>>> useful other factors as well as relative traffic speeds?
>>>
>>> Peter Cox
>>> Programme Leader in Community Studies
>>> School of Social Science
>>> University of Chester
>>> Parkgate Road
>>> Chester CH1 4BJ
>>> 01244 375444 xt2039
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Tim Jones <[log in to unmask]>:
>>>
>>>> This is an interesting critique of cycle lanes but with respect the
>>>> methodology leaves a lot to be desired.
>>>>
>>>> -Use of one FEMALE cyclist
>>>> - No randomisation
>>>> - Selective use of evidence (i.e. to what extent do the photographs
>>>> represent the true situation?)
>>>> etc
>>>>
>>>> Tim Jones
>>>> Oxford Brookes University
>>>>
>>>> Peter Cox wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello all
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting study with photographs at
>>>>> http://www.warringtoncyclecampaign.co.uk/
>>>>>
>>>>> If you haven't already seen the internationally renowned "facility
>>>>> of the
>>>>> month" pages on the same website then you have been missing a
>>> treat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Cox
>>>>> Programme Leader in Community Studies
>>>>> School of Social Science
>>>>> University of Chester
>>>>> Parkgate Road
>>>>> Chester CH1 4BJ
>>>>> 01244 375444 xt2039
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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