> Hi Al:
>
> Sure, observers impact the observed. It's not unique to any one
> field. But, to me, it seems like it's even more of an obstacle with
> the "arts" than with the "sciences", and magic, in my view,
> qualifies as an art and not a science, in spite of the work of
> innovators like Peter Carroll.
I believe the canonical phrase is;
"Our method is Science,
Our aim is Religion"
(Aleister 'Uncle Fester' Crowley, of course...)
For me, the 'observer effect' is one of the intrinsic aspects of
working magic - though it certainly messes up attempts at
objectivity! Often it's the interface between observer and observed
where the fun happens - but that's true of any limnal place or state.
Cat
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