Mogg --
Ah, North Yorkshire, in that case I don't at present
remember about it. I'll see if i can find anyone who
does.
Jacqueline
--- Mogg Morgan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Jacqueline
>
> yeah i remember that one - had wondered if the stone
> might
> be transposed to boscastle : )
> although after the flood there might well be
> opposition to that.
>
> But I still think this is yet another, older stone -
> i seem to remember north yorkshire - and perhaps a
> churchyard location
> although maybe not a curse but a fence against
> 'witchcraft'?
>
> bb/93
>
> mogg
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of jacqueline
> simpson
> Sent: 17 February 2006 15:24
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] English Folk
> Charms (verbal)
>
>
> Mogg--
>
> Got it! The fuss was in early March 2005, and fully
> reported in UK press (e.g. Times 2nd March, Daily
> mail
> 3d with good photo, Guardian 8th, Telegraph 9th).
>
> The stone is a sculpture by Gordon Young in Tullie
> House Museum, Carlisle, inscribed with part of a
> curse
> against catttle thieves said to have been proclaimed
> by an Archbishop of Glasgow in 1525, and based
> ultimately on 'The curse of St Adalbert' which you
> can
> find in Book 12 chapter 18 of Reginald Scot's 'The
> Discoverie of Witchcraft' 1584. The stone carries
> 383
> words of the original curse, which is about 1060
> words
> long. Runes are *not* involved.
>
> Some people tried to get the town council to remove
> it, alleging it had caused defeats for the football
> team. The Council refused.
>
> There was a website (www.gaddgedlar.com/curse.htm)
> but
> I don't know if it's still around.
>
> Jacqueline
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Mogg Morgan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Jacqueline
> >
> > sounds really interesting - do you know if it has
> > the text of a 'runic'(?)
> > cursing spell from a stone, perhaps in a
> churchyard,
> > in north england
> > somewhere??
> > That's a bit vague really i know - i caught the
> tail
> > end of that on the
> > radio
> > a month or two back but couldn't track it down at
> > the time??
> >
> > mogg
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Society for The Academic Study of Magic
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> > Behalf Of jacqueline
> > simpson
> > Sent: 16 February 2006 23:57
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] English Folk
> Charms
> > (verbal)
> >
> >
> > Some while back I mentioned that there would be a
> > study of traditional English verbal charms
> published
> > soon. Well, it has arrived. It's Jonathan Roper,
> > "English Verbal Charms" (ISBN 951-41-0968-6), 241
> > pages, pub. by Folklore Fellows Communications,
> > Academia Scientiarum Fennica. Obtainable from
> > Bookstore Tiedekirja, Kirkkokatu 14, Helsinki,
> > Finland. Email: [log in to unmask]
> >
> > Roper has assembled and analysed a database of
> over
> > 500 English traditional verbal folk charms from
> > Anglo-Saxon time to 20th century, and this book
> > gives
> > representative texts grouped into 45 types, and
> > discusses various aspects of the genre, and of the
> > practice of charming.
> >
> > There are two groupings: healing charms, mostly
> with
> > strong Christian elements; and love divinations
> and
> > other charms for non-healing purposes, which do
> not
> > show religious traits.
> >
> > It's the first comprehensive study of the English
> > material (it covers England only, not the rest of
> > Britain or other anglophone countries), and also
> > indicates some of the general European
> connections.
> >
> > May be of interest to some here.
> >
> > Jacqueline
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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