Curious and sad to see the muse and her projections (books) so well
protected from public view!
California libraries can be - in theory, at least - much kinder in process.
Stephen V
>> Does your public library order poetry books?
>
> In theory, yes, that is to say it will request books off other libraries
> (no, it will not purchase a specific book on demand) and as, for instance,
> Geraldine's books would almost certainly be at the Poetry Library in London
> one would think that through the Inter-Library scheme this would be simple.
> In practice it is well nigh impossible as the Poetry Library is not part of
> the Public Lending Library structure. What would happen is that the request
> would have to sent first to all public libraries nationally, refused as not
> in stock, only then submitted elsewhere, even if one knows exactly where the
> book is available.
>
> It might be worth mentioning here that the Poetry Library in London does
> allow books out on loan direct but only to personal visitors so if you live
> outside London forget it. This is unlike the much smaller Northern Poetry
> Library in Morpeth which does loan books out via postal application and,
> too, inferior to the set up in Scotland, where the Edinburgh or Glasgow main
> centre has sub-branches in other towns.
>
> Best
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Vincent" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:34 PM
> Subject: Re: A Berkeley Reading - Geraldine Monk & A Halsey
>
>
>> Good, David, I am glad you have made piece with Geraldine! Though like
> most
>> I occasionally indulge in hurtful speech and writing, it's always a breath
>> of fresh air not to get drawn in on that level.
>>
>> Does your public library order poetry books?
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>>
>>> It's only an argument in an intellectual sense, Stephen, not the
> seemingly
>>> personal one that the phrasing 'a seeming perpetual one with Geraldine'
>>> suggests.
>>>
>>> Can't buy the book me duck because I can't afford to buy new books: I
> live
>>> on minimum incapacity benefit these days.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> dave
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Stephen Vincent" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: A Berkeley Reading - Geraldine Monk & A Halsey
>>>
>>>
>>>> David -
>>>>
>>>> If this is an argument with either me - and my ignorance of your
> history -
>>>> or a seeming perpetual one with Geraldine, I think it best that we not
>>>> dribble in the dark - but that you buy the book, and then respond on a
>>> more
>>>> informed level to the real text at hand.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Stephen V
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Her book from West House is Escafeld Hangings (complete with a CD).
>>>>>> Mary had some big troubles (apparently) with the head of State, as I
>>>>> suspect
>>>>>> the majority of England - including no doubt both you and Geraldine -
>>>>> these
>>>>>> days with Blair who, nevertheless, holds his subjects to his and
> George
>>>>> W's
>>>>>> suicidal war policies. I suspect there is a bit of ironic
> metaphoric
>>>>>> identification going on between M and G. Geraldine's response is to
>>>>>> embroider syntax and sing as hard as she can thru the vehicle of Mary
>>> and
>>>>> a
>>>>>> bunch of it is wonderfully goofy in an elevated kind of way.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Stephen. I fear the metaphor does not hold.
>>>>>
>>>>> Teflon Tony, thank God, is not the British Head of State, nor are we
>>> +his+
>>>>> subjects. He is the current +voice+ of power though. Mary's
> imprisonment
>>> and
>>>>> woes were a direct result of the Machiavellian maneouvres of
> Elizabethan
>>>>> power politics, which are best not to contemplate at this time of the
>>>>> morning (it's a little before 6 a.m. here). And, too, that she was a
>>> female
>>>>> ruler at the same time as England had one: disaster! in political
> terms:
>>> she
>>>>> could marry an enemy!!! If the English monarch had been male at the
> time
>>>>> they'd have married them off faster than you can say Jack Robinson
>>>>> (actually, nobody seems to say that any more). Also Mary had the
>>> political
>>>>> and social savoir-faire of a sheep outside a slaughterhouse.
>>>>>
>>>>> But if the metaphor runs to G in Blair's Britannia not being noticed
> by
>>>>> Sheffield as Mary was in imprisonment there, well, I can't say it
> fits.
>>>>> Ironic, yes, indeed.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Geraldine's response is to
>>>>>> embroider syntax and sing as hard as she can thru the vehicle of Mary
>>> and
>>>>> a
>>>>>> bunch of it is wonderfully goofy in an elevated kind of way.
>>>>>
>>>>> I bet she does! She's very good at that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Stephen Vincent" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 11:09 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: A Berkeley Reading - Geraldine Monk & A Halsey
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I gather it was not too glamorous - conditions et al - Ms. Mary in
>>>>> prison
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> the time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure, Stephen. By 'historical glamour' I meant that of the +name+
> Mary
>>>>> Queen
>>>>>>> of Scots.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And, I suspect, in terms of Geraldine living in contemporary
>>>>>>>> Sheffield, not to glamorous either. Put M & G together, etc. & see
>>> what
>>>>>>>> happens (as poem) along with Blair as head of State. Yucks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unlike some of G's prior or latter work I don't know the MQS stuff.
> So
>>>>>>> what's link- Mary of Scots, Geraldine, both a long time in, but not
>>>>> from,
>>>>>>> Sheffield, and Blair?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Her book from West House is Escafeld Hangings (complete with a CD).
>>>>>> Mary had some big troubles (apparently) with the head of State, as I
>>>>> suspect
>>>>>> the majority of England - including no doubt both you and Geraldine -
>>>>> these
>>>>>> days with Blair who, nevertheless, holds his subjects to his and
> George
>>>>> W's
>>>>>> suicidal war policies. I suspect there is a bit of ironic
> metaphoric
>>>>>> identification going on between M and G. Geraldine's response is to
>>>>>> embroider syntax and sing as hard as she can thru the vehicle of Mary
>>> and
>>>>> a
>>>>>> bunch of it is wonderfully goofy in an elevated kind of way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would quote but I am at work, David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stephen V
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just curious.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Stephen Vincent" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:59 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: A Berkeley Reading - Geraldine Monk & A Halsey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I guess of more interest is, apart from historical
>>>>>>>>> glamour, what is the +significance+ re Sheffield of Mary Queen of
>>>>> Scots
>>>>>>>>> having been imprisoned there?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I gather it was not too glamorous - conditions et al - Ms. Mary in
>>>>> prison
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> the time. And, I suspect, in terms of Geraldine living in
>>> contemporary
>>>>>>>> Sheffield, not to glamorous either. Put M & G together, etc. & see
>>> what
>>>>>>>> happens (as poem) along with Blair as head of State. Yucks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Being under Bush I cannot extend my sympathy too far! Yucks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stephen V
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