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Subject:

Fwd: fortran compiler for new macbook? ANN - Fortran and C/C++ compilers and development tools for Intel-based Macs

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Norman Gray <[log in to unmask]>

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Starlink development <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:14:12 +0000

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Hmmm.  Everyone seems to be getting in on this particular act...

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> From: "Jeff Livesay" <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 2006 January 12  20.43.43 GMT
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: fortran compiler for new macbook? ANN - Fortran and C/C 
> ++ compilers and development tools for Intel-based Macs
>
> Dear Fortran / Apple User Community:
>
> Due to the many recent postings, we are pleased to share the  
> following information.
>
> Absoft is developing Fortran and C/C++ compilers & tool suites for  
> the new Intel-based Macs and is working with Intel to offer best-of- 
> breed compilers, debuggers, math & performance libraries, and other  
> development tools from both Absoft and Intel for Intel-based Macs  
> to be available in bundles from Absoft.
>
> The full announcement, made at MacWorld yesterday, is available at:  
> http://www.absoft.com/corporate/pressreleases/060111.html
>
> The products will be available in the first half of 2006.  Absoft  
> is the primary point of contact for selling and supporting these  
> solutions.
>
> Product details and introductory commercial SRPs are available at:   
> http://www.absoft.com/Products/Clusters/intelfortrancbundle_osx.html
>
> Academic and government discounts will be available.
>
> Free trial beta licenses may be obtained by applying to Absoft  
> online at: http://www.absoft.com/freetrialbeta.html
>
> For inquiries, please contact [log in to unmask]
>
> Thank you for your loyalty as Fortran customers on Apple and your  
> patience as we work to rapidly make these tools available to you.
>
> Jeff Livesay
> Chief Operating Officer
> Absoft Corporation
>
>         Leading Fortran/C/C++ Compilers, Debuggers & Development  
> Tools for more than 26 Years
>
> 2781 Bond Street
> Rochester Hills, MI 48309 USA
> (248) 853-0050 - voice
> (248) 853 0108 - fax
> www.absoft.com
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:02:02 -0500
> From: Fred Dahlgren <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: fortran compiler for new macbook?
> To: Apple Scitech Mailing List <[log in to unmask]>
> Cc: [log in to unmask]
> Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> FWIW, apparently Absoft will be offering a Fortran/C/C++ bundle for  
> the new Intel Macs:
>
> http://www.absoft.com/Products/Clusters/intelfortrancbundle_osx.html
>
> Availability is listed as 2Q06 and no academic price breaks or  
> upgrade pricing are listed.
>
> The stated bundle cost is pricey at $1449 although Fortran alone is
> $549 (which is a bit less
> than Intel is asking for their Linux version). Hopefully the code  
> produced is binary compatible with GCC.
>
> -Fred
>
> On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:24 PM, Pierre-Olivier Dallaire wrote:
>
> > From Intel :
> >
> > http://www.intel.com/cd/software/products/asmo-na/eng/227389.htm
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > PO
> > ______________________________________
> > Pierre-Olivier Dallaire
> > Itudiant, mantrise ginie micanique
> > Universiti de Sherbrooke / IREQ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10-Jan-06, at 4:19 PM, Tom Pollard wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:08 PM, millard alexander wrote:
> >>> is there a good fortran compiler for the new macbook pro?
> >>
> >> I believe it was announced earlier that Intel would be release a
> >> version of their Fortran compiler for these machines, as they  
> already
> >> do for Linux.  It's not free, but it's quite good; in our  
> company we
> >> recently switched from Absoft and PGI F90 over to Intel Fortran for
> >> our Linux builds.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.
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> >> olivier.dallaire%40cgocable.ca
> >>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:28:54 -0700
> From: Joe Koski <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: fortran compiler for new macbook?
> To: Fred Dahlgren <[log in to unmask]>,  Apple Scitech Mailing List
>         <[log in to unmask]>
> Cc: Fortran Developers List <[log in to unmask]>
> Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="ISO-8859-1"
>
> A quick, related question: Is OS X for Intel Macs built with Intel C 
> ++/C or Apple g++/gcc? From the statement about gcc compatibility  
> below, I assume Apple will continue to use gcc, etc. Correct?
>
> Joe
>
>
> on 1/11/06 2:02 PM, Fred Dahlgren at [log in to unmask] wrote:
>
> > FWIW, apparently Absoft will be offering a Fortran/C/C++ bundle for
> > the new Intel Macs:
> >
> > http://www.absoft.com/Products/Clusters/intelfortrancbundle_osx.html
> >
> > Availability is listed as 2Q06 and no academic price breaks or  
> upgrade
> > pricing are listed.
> >
> > The stated bundle cost is pricey at $1449 although Fortran alone is
> > $549 (which is a bit less
> > than Intel is asking for their Linux version). Hopefully the code
> > produced is binary compatible with GCC.
> >
> > -Fred
> >
> > On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:24 PM, Pierre-Olivier Dallaire wrote:
> >
> >> From Intel :
> >>
> >> http://www.intel.com/cd/software/products/asmo-na/eng/227389.htm
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> PO
> >> ______________________________________
> >> Pierre-Olivier Dallaire
> >> Itudiant, mantrise ginie micanique
> >> Universiti de Sherbrooke / IREQ
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10-Jan-06, at 4:19 PM, Tom Pollard wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:08 PM, millard alexander wrote:
> >>>> is there a good fortran compiler for the new macbook pro?
> >>>
> >>> I believe it was announced earlier that Intel would be release a
> >>> version of their Fortran compiler for these machines, as they
> >>> already do for Linux.  It's not free, but it's quite good; in our
> >>> company we recently switched from Absoft and PGI F90 over to Intel
> >>> Fortran for our Linux builds.
> >>>
> >>> Tom
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.
> >>> Fortran-dev mailing list      ([log in to unmask])
> >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:
> >>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/fortran-dev/pierre-
> >>> olivier.dallaire%40cgocable.ca
> >>>
> >>> This email sent to [log in to unmask]
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> v
> >>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:51:42 -0800
> From: John Eidinger <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Fortran compiler for new macbook
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="ISO-8859-1"
>
> Several months ago, Absoft stated on their web site that they would  
> have a Mac-Intel fortran compiler. Their web site today was updated  
> to highlight Absoft Fortran version 10 for Mac-Intel to be  
> available 2Q06; beta available now. Prices range from $549 to $1449+.
>
>
> On 1/11/06 12:02 PM, "[log in to unmask]"
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >    1. fortran compiler for new macbook? (millard alexander)
> >    2. Re: fortran compiler for new macbook? (Joe Koski)
> >    3. Re: fortran compiler for new macbook? (Tom Pollard)
> >    4. Re: fortran compiler for new macbook? (Pierre-Olivier  
> Dallaire)
> >
> >
> >  
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:08:57 -0500
> > From: millard alexander <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: fortran compiler for new macbook?
> > To: [log in to unmask], Apple Scitech Mailing List
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > is there a good fortran compiler for the new macbook pro?
> >
> > ---
> > millard alexander, distinguished university professor department of
> > chemistry and biochemistry
> >      institute for physical science and technology university of
> > maryland, college park, maryland, 20742-2021, usa
> > tel:  +1.301.405.1823   fax:  +1.301.314.9121
> > web:  www.chem.umd.edu/groups/alexander/index.html
> >
> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:16:31 -0700
> > From: Joe Koski <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: fortran compiler for new macbook?
> > To: millard alexander <[log in to unmask]>, Fortran Developers List
> > <[log in to unmask]>, Apple Scitech Mailing List
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Millard,
> >
> > I would suggest looking at the discussion on http:// 
> hpc.sourceforge.net/.
> > Also, be aware that there are some who say that there are no good
> > choices for OS X 10.4. I suspect everyone9s waiting for Intel  
> Fortran to arrive.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > on 1/10/06 2:08 PM, millard alexander at [log in to unmask] wrote:
> >
> >> is there a good fortran compiler for the new macbook pro?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >>
> >>
> >> millard alexander, distinguished university professor
> >>
> >>
> >> department of chemistry and biochemistry
> >>
> >>
> >>     institute for physical science and technology
> >>
> >>
> >> university of maryland, college park, maryland, 20742-2021, usa
> >>
> >>
> >> tel:  +1.301.405.1823   fax:  +1.301.314.9121
> >>
> >>
> >> web:  www.chem.umd.edu/groups/alexander/index.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  _______________________________________________
> >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:19:47 -0500
> > From: Tom Pollard <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: fortran compiler for new macbook?
> > To: millard alexander <[log in to unmask]>
> > Cc: Apple Scitech Mailing List <[log in to unmask]>,
> > [log in to unmask]
> > Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
> >
> >
> > On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:08 PM, millard alexander wrote:
> >> is there a good fortran compiler for the new macbook pro?
> >
> > I believe it was announced earlier that Intel would be release a
> > version of their Fortran compiler for these machines, as they  
> already
> > do for Linux.  It's not free, but it's quite good; in our company we
> > recently switched from Absoft and PGI F90 over to Intel Fortran for
> > our Linux builds.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:24:25 -0500
> > From: Pierre-Olivier Dallaire <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: fortran compiler for new macbook?
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Cc: Apple Scitech Mailing List <[log in to unmask]>
> > Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes;  
> format=flowed
> >
> >  From Intel :
> >
> > http://www.intel.com/cd/software/products/asmo-na/eng/227389.htm
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > PO
> > ______________________________________
> > Pierre-Olivier Dallaire
> > Itudiant, mantrise ginie micanique
> > Universiti de Sherbrooke / IREQ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10-Jan-06, at 4:19 PM, Tom Pollard wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:08 PM, millard alexander wrote:
> >>> is there a good fortran compiler for the new macbook pro?
> >>
> >> I believe it was announced earlier that Intel would be release a
> >> version of their Fortran compiler for these machines, as they  
> already
> >> do for Linux.  It's not free, but it's quite good; in our  
> company we
> >> recently switched from Absoft and PGI F90 over to Intel Fortran for
> >> our Linux builds.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.
> >> Fortran-dev mailing list      ([log in to unmask])
> >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:
> >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/fortran-dev/pierre-
> >> olivier.dallaire%40cgocable.ca
> >>
> >> This email sent to [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Fortran-dev mailing list
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> >
> > End of Fortran-dev Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5
> > *****************************************
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:00:11 -0500
> From: Fred Dahlgren <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: fortran compiler for new macbook?
> To: Joe Koski <[log in to unmask]>
> Cc: [log in to unmask]
> Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> Just a guess but since the Intel compilers for MacOSX are still in  
> beta, and Apple has been building OSX for Intel for several years  
> now, GCC is almost certainly the one they used (and will probably  
> continue to use). It's not clear whether the Intel/Absoft compilers  
> will be capable of building fat binaries or could even be  
> integrated into Xcode.
>
> They will probably only produce Intel native code.
> What's interesting is the emphasis Absoft is putting on 64-bit  
> compatibility when the current Macintels are all 32-bit Yonah-based  
> cpus. One might speculate on the next desktop from Apple: a 64-bit  
> Yonah? Conroe? Xeon? Itanium? Merom?
>
> It would be rather ironic if Apples' 64-bit OS can't be used  
> because Intel can't deliver a low cost 64-bit dual core cpu.
>
> I don't think S.J. mentioned 64-bit once in his keynote yesterday....
>
> -Fred
>
> On Jan 11, 2006, at 4:28 PM, Joe Koski wrote:
>
> > A quick, related question: Is OS X for Intel Macs built with Intel
> > C++/C or
> > Apple g++/gcc? From the statement about gcc compatibility below, I
> > assume Apple will continue to use gcc, etc. Correct?
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > on 1/11/06 2:02 PM, Fred Dahlgren at [log in to unmask] wrote:
> >
> >> FWIW, apparently Absoft will be offering a Fortran/C/C++ bundle for
> >> the new Intel Macs:
> >>
> >> http://www.absoft.com/Products/Clusters/ 
> intelfortrancbundle_osx.html
> >>
> >> Availability is listed as 2Q06 and no academic price breaks or
> >> upgrade pricing are listed.
> >>
> >> The stated bundle cost is pricey at $1449 although Fortran alone is
> >> $549 (which is a bit less
> >> than Intel is asking for their Linux version). Hopefully the code
> >> produced is binary compatible with GCC.
> >>
> >> -Fred
> >>
> >> On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:24 PM, Pierre-Olivier Dallaire wrote:
> >>
> >>> From Intel :
> >>>
> >>> http://www.intel.com/cd/software/products/asmo-na/eng/227389.htm
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> PO
> >>> ______________________________________
> >>> Pierre-Olivier Dallaire
> >>> Itudiant, mantrise ginie micanique
> >>> Universiti de Sherbrooke / IREQ
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 10-Jan-06, at 4:19 PM, Tom Pollard wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:08 PM, millard alexander wrote:
> >>>>> is there a good fortran compiler for the new macbook pro?
> >>>>
> >>>> I believe it was announced earlier that Intel would be release a
> >>>> version of their Fortran compiler for these machines, as they
> >>>> already do for Linux.  It's not free, but it's quite good; in our
> >>>> company we recently switched from Absoft and PGI F90 over to  
> Intel
> >>>> Fortran for our Linux builds.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tom
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.
> >>>> Fortran-dev mailing list      ([log in to unmask])
> >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:
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> >>>> olivier.dallaire%40cgocable.ca
> >>>>
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> >>>
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