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Re: Are we in a State of Denial about Climate Change?

From:

Christopher McCOY <[log in to unmask]>

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Christopher McCOY <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:26:31 +0000

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Hi John and CF Colleagues !

Many Thanks for replying to my own reply John !! ; )

Hopefully I have a home in the large World too, since
what "I" write is entirely relevant and true in
relation to all of it, and it is only other Humans'
relative unaware state of this that creates an
apparent/relative discrepancy, so we'll see how it
goes as to whether I also contact interested
Ecopsychology parties. The answers to all of our
problems are actually very simple, and also very
practical, and either neutral or positive. Incorrectly
side-lining/grouping them is an active means of
preventing such information and practicality being
disseminated and realised by everyone, creating
barriers, and supporting excuses not to look at the
solutions being discussed by those side-lined groups.
There are no barriers in Nature or Real Life, and
there are no Words, ism's, etc, so there are issues
with being lumped/labelled into any camp such as, as
just one example, Ecopsychology. Whether we
"Psychologise" life or not (as Human beings "only"),
it just carries on as it is - really, what's the point
? Better just to get on and live and be Happy and be
always amazed and in awe and love, as I am, at and of
the beyond-words incredibility lovingness of it all !.

Lots of Regards to you John, and All the Best ! Hope
you're well and happy !!!

P.S. Am also a Professional Engineer in Industry, hold
MSc in Oceanography, worked in basic Medicine with
NHS, numerous other roles in Society inc. Dustbin
work, Grounds Maintenance, Road Sweeping. Sheet Metal
Pressing, etc..., Martial/Empty-Hand Arts experience
and teaching, have numerous "deeper" experiences,
etc...and am not an airy-fairy wuss, but a pretty
normal bloke, so have a fair and wider understanding
of the down-to-earth and deeper practicalities and
mindsets of solutions and the many day-to-day
lifestyles and living circumstances for many people
(Humans!) throughout many areas and situations in
(particularly UK/some Japanese) Society - not limited
to a
dancing-around-a-bonfire-flower-power-a-little-self-involved-style
image or remit !! ; ) All situations are not limited
to Humans - all Solutions and Ways of Thinking,
Decisions, etc inherently ought to consider all Life
and All Existence. I've, for the most part, had my own
"personal" experiences throughout Life, and
figuratively come back only recently to discover and
read about others (inc. an ongoing aspect related to
reading Religious texts for comparison) - so this
gives a figurative degree of Independence in
Understanding which, low and behold, agrees with many
areas presently mentioned by persons and things such
as by Satish Kumar, the Tao Te Ching, Unselfish Loving
interpretations of the New Testament, much of
Buddhism, so-called Ecopsychology, Deep Ecology, Some
of current Physics esp Wave-superposition principle
creating reality (not probability) (although, as just
one example, I know by unscientific subjective
experience that an Aether exists and is dynamic on all
scales, and yet I'm particularly a Specialist
Electromagnetics Engineer in Industry, plus with other
Engineering backrounds) etc....(have not yet read
Qu'ran, Bhagavad Gita etc but intend to get around to
this...).

I realise that it's a bit of a personal content, but
it may help in support of the blurb that I write on
occasion on this Forum !

All the Best John and Forum collegaues !

Chris. M.

--- John Scull <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hi Chris,
> 
> Thanks for the comments.
> 
> Again, reading my material leads me to believe you
> have an on-line home in the 
> small world of ecopsychology.  See www.ecopsych.com
> for on-line courses and 
> study groups, www.ecopsychology.org for contact
> information, an online journal, 
> and a blog.
> 
> peace with earth,
> 
> John
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> www.ecopsychology.org
> Practically speaking, a life that is vowed to
> simplicity, appropriate boldness, 
> good humour, gratitude, unstinting work and play and
> lots of walking brings us 
> close to the actually existing world and its
> wholeness.
>                                                     
>  -- Gary Snyder
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Christopher McCOY" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Are we in a State of Denial about
> Climate Change?
> 
> 
> > The Climate always has Changed and always will
> Change.
> > You cannot stop it any more than you can stop the
> Sun
> > from figuratively rising in the morning. Sound
> > familiar ?
> >
> > We can model, discuss, think-in-Human-terms, etc
> over
> > and over again, whilst Nature goes about here
> business
> > ain her own time, and the Climate will still
> Change.
> > Sound familiar ?
> >
> > We can spend massive resources on Predicitve
> Modelling
> > efforts, Building defensive barriers, Writing
> > textbooks, Talking at Meetings, Building more and
> more
> > non-Renewable (including most presently so-called
> > Renewable) technologies and items, etc, yet the
> > Climate will still change ! Still sound roughly
> > familiar ?
> >
> > SIMPLIFY. Increase Individual's Self-Reliant
> Skills
> > and Basic Genuine Living Skills (e.g. often
> grouped
> > under Survival/Adaptation areas, etc). Understand
> that
> > REDUCING DEMAND in every area of Life, from
> > expectations of ourselves, expectations of others,
> > expectations of the NSH, expectations of our
> > Government, expectations a new gadget,
> expectations of
> > perfect health, expectations of Climate,
> expectations
> > of Outside Help in "Crises", to desire to Reduce
> > purchases of many items due to an understanding of
> > their entire supply-chain-and-usage consequences
> in
> > physical and mindset terms, to desire to select
> > Engineering materials or to make Management or
> > shopping decisions based upon their resultant
> > Planetary impact, to bringing each individual
> closer
> > to Nature and more self-reliant, adaptable,  and
> > skilled (by experience) in surviving all manner of
> > "adverse situations", and so forth... Sound
> familiar
> > ??
> >
> > Where should the resources be put ? Into Mr. X's
> plans
> > and opinions ? Into Mrs Y's plans and opionions ?
> Into
> > Mr & Mrs 2450032's plans and opinions ? Using
> which
> > fashionable names ? Into which
> >
> not-understanding-the-whole-picture-but-think-we-do
> > alledgedly Scientific conclusion plans ? Or into
> > following Nature's flow, always around us, always
> > going as "She" wants, always there for us to get
> into
> > contact with, of whom we ARE Her (It) and a part !
> ?
> > Sound Familiar ?
> >
> > CORRECT (!!!) non-fashionable, Independent,
> > Nature-based/Nature-derived,
> > non-personal-or-scientific(still very
> Human)-opinion,
> > UNSELFISH solutions for Reducing Impact, Reducing
> > Demand, improving Survival and Adaptability,
> improving
> > Personal Development and Personal
> capability/skills,
> > self-confidence, health and self-reliance,
> Practical
> > ability and Spirituality, etc... are required.
> >
> > These are where the altruistic large-scale Charity
> > that I wish to further comes in ! If you would
> like to
> > support such a practical and broader and deeper
> > endeavour, please let me know !!!
> >
> > Chris. McCOY
> >
> >
> > --- John Scull <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for the very interesting article, George.
> >> All of us are caught up in this -- I have a
> friend
> >> in the UK shares your view of the evils of air
> >> travel.  Her daughter, son-in-law, and grandson
> live
> >> in Vancouver, Canada.  What is she to do?
> >>
> >> You folks in the UK have probably seen the
> >> promotional material for James Lovelock's
> >> forthcoming book in the Independent at
> >>
> >
>
http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/article338830.ece
> >>
> >
>
http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article338879.ece
> >>
> >
>
http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article338878.ece
> >>
> >
>
http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article339066.ece
> >>
> >> There's some amusing commentary on all this in
> Grist
> >> Magazine at
> >>
> >
>
http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/1/17/162337/139.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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