Hi Susan,
I think you have to register for the Lashtal site, and
then go to "downloads."
Best,
Mark
--- Susan Johnston Graf <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Mark,
> I wonder if you can give a more specific URL for the
> Crowley article you
> site below. The link just brings up the Lashtal
> main page, and I was
> unsuccessful in trying to find the article. Thanks.
> susan
>
> At 11:58 PM 1/8/2006, you wrote:
> >Thank you for your response. I also don't recall
> >Crowley citing James directly, but as you mention,
> >their methods are markedly similar. Crowley and
> Jung's
> >work has much in common as well, particularily in
> the
> >realm of the phenomenology of consciousness. This
> >thesis does a good job of dicussing Crowley and
> Jung's
> >commonality, and tries to paint Crowley as an early
> >"Anthropologist of Consciousness."
> >
> >Magick/Liber Aba and Mysterium Conjunctionis: A
> >Comparison of the Writings of Aleister Crowley and
> C G
> >Jung.
> >(http://www.lashtal.com/nuke/modules.php)
> >
> >
> >--- Patric Gavin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > It's interesting that I'm not the only one who's
> > > made the connection between
> > > James' Radical Empiricism and a fairly large
> number
> > > of statements made by
> > > Crowley. I couldn't come up with specific ones
> right
> > > now besides the Liber O
> > > (was it?) preface you allude to, but I recall
> many
> > > statements in
> > > Magickparallel James' ideas very strongly.
> Oddly, I
> > > see Crowley refer
> > > directly to
> > > Kant, Berkeley, and other idealist philosophers
> far
> > > more than James (I can't
> > > actually recall a single James reference
> offhand),
> > > but his practical
> > > orientation is distinctly pragmatist, at least
> in
> > > his earlier work.
> > >
> > > Perhaps those who've read more of Crowley's
> journals
> > > might know for sure,
> > > but I'm presently wondering whether James
> influenced
> > > Crowley, or if Crowley
> > > was actually an independent development of
> pragmatic
> > > thought. The latter
> > > seems unlikely, but it certainly would be
> > > interesting.
> > >
> > > Personally, I'm a huge fan of James in
> particular
> > > among the pragmatist
> > > philosophers precisely for his Radical
> Empiricism.
> > > Cool to find someone else
> > > who seems to really know that part of his work.
> > >
> > > - 'L
> > >
> > > On 1/4/06, Mark Shekoyan <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > [. . .]
> > > > If we did this, could we tease out new dynamic
> and
> > > > vital insights? Of course, much of this would
> have
> > > to
> > > > be based on praxis as well as theory for it to
> be
> > > > meaningful. The method of "Scientific
> Illuminism"
> > > > Crowley posited bares a marked resemblance to
> the
> > > > radical empiricism of William James....By
> doing
> > > > certain things, certain results follow. Maybe
> we
> > > might
> > > > repeat some of Crowleys experiments and then
> see
> > > what
> > > > results follow for us? Can we test and verify
> as
> > > one
> > > > does in the natural sciences?
> > > >
> > > > That seems to be one of the basic things that
> sets
> > > > magick apart from mere ideology.
> > >
> > > [. . .]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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