On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 09:41:41 +0100, Professor Bill Hillier
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Dear Bin - I'm pretty sure this data set was
>never tested, and I strongly suspect that it
>would not be reliable. We have some well
>established and tested datasets (mulitple
>repedated observations) and we will be making
>some available shortly. - Bill
And what is the meaning of ‘we’ll be making the data available shortly’?
What is shortly?
Rui
>
>
>>Dear all,
>>
>>With reference to the observation dataset
>>(http://www.thepurehands.org/massObs/), I wonder
>>if anyone there has used it for some
>>verification, say, if local integration predicts
>>the observed pedestrian rates.
>>
>>Actually I am looking for observation datasets
>>of pedestrian rates of any urban systems. If
>>someone would like to share with me his/her
>>datasets, could you kindly contact me? Many
>>thanks in advance.
>>
>>Cheers.
>>
>>Bin
>>
>>Rui Carvalho wrote:
>>
>>>I was one of the people who did these 'observations'.
>>>
>>>We were told nothing on methodology -how do you count people over 5
minutes?
>>>
>>>
>>>My counts had an error of about 18%, depending on whether you count for
5
>>>minutes or 5 min 20 s (10 secs at beg & 10 sec at end). You can fit
almost
>>>anything you like to data with such high errors.
>>>
>>>Rui
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>>>>Behalf Of Nick Dalton
>>>>Sent: 09 March 2005 11:04
>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>Subject: Re: Publically available standard test cases
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Don't forget the open observation exercise I held at the last space
>>>>syntax conference.
>>>>
>>>>You can pick up the observation results at.
>>>>http://www.thepurehands.org/massObs/
>>>>
>>>>more standard test sights and more standard observation information
would
>>>>
>>>>
>>>be
>>>
>>>>very useful.
>>>>
>>>>sheep
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>For the Gassin maps on the VR website, I have actually spent a couple
of
>>>>>minutes to ask Julienne Hanson (who drew the maps) and CUP (who
>>>>>published them) for permission to publish the digitised diagrams.
Both
>>>>>were happy for the maps to remain up for academic purposes.
>>>>>
>>>>>I hope this serves to encourage the use of a standard set of test
cases
>>>>>for space syntax. However, I would still like to see some observation
>>>>>data made available. For example, within the artificial intelligence
>>>>>community, the Anderson (1935) iris data has become a standard that is
>>>>>freely distributed to test classification algorithms.
>>>>>
>>>>>Alasdair
>>>>>
>>>>>Rui Carvalho wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 11:15:53 +0000, Alasdair Turner
<[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On vector maps: the maps on http://www.vr.ucl.ac.uk/research/axial
are
>>>>>>>high definition vectorised versions of the maps in the Social Logic
of
>>>>>>>Space. For Rui -- I am not sure whether these are supposed to be
open
>>>>>>>access or not given the copyright of Social Logic of Space rests
with
>>>>>>>CUP. (Also, sorry Bin, they don't include fig 25.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, of course the copyright of those images rests with CUP.
>>>>>>Strictly speaking, it seems that the VR centre is violating CUP's
>>>>>>copyright by not stating that clearly -just joking!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My point is that it is your job to negotiate with CUP to make these
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>images
>>>
>>>>>>open access. The readers should be spared the red tape.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rui
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Alasdair
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Alasdair Turner
>>>>>Lecturer in Architectural Computing
>>>>>Bartlett School of Graduate Studies
>>>>>UCL Gower Street LONDON WC1E 6BT
>>>>>
>>>>>Course Director: MSc Virtual Environments
>>>>>MSc Adaptive Architecture and Computation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>--------------------------------------------------------
>>Bin Jiang
>>Division of Geomatics
>>Dept. of Technology and Built Environment
>>University of Gävle, SE-801 76 Gävle, Sweden
>>Phone: +46-26-64 8901 Fax: +46-26-64 8828
>>Email: [log in to unmask] Web: http://www.hig.se/~bjg/
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>>ICA Workshop: http://www.hig.se/~bjg/ica/workshop/
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