Cliff

Thanks for this. The question I have to answer is how much to ask CCL to
do (with costs attached) and how much can be done by COUNTER, who may be
in a better position to get progress. I am likely to be talking with
Peter Shepherd this week and, if so, will talk about this before the WG
meeting. There is no COUNTER Rep as such, but one member is on the
COUNTER Steeering Group and we do talk with Peter from time to time. 

You assume that publishers see a NESLi2 deal as an advantage! 

Tom
  

Dr Thomas W Graham
University Librarian
Robinson Library
Newcastle University
NE2 4HQ
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-----Original Message-----
From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cliff Spencer
Sent: 16 October 2006 18:06
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Nil-Usage Enquiry

 Tom,

I set up and run lib-stats, and the web site lib-stats.org.uk to promote
discussion about usage data, but very occasionally post messages to
lis-e-journals if a query warrants it. 
The KPI's mentioned have been developed by Jill and myself, and have
been pretty much adopted by most folks as a container to make sense of
their stats.

The stats community would like to see a firmer commitment from
publishers when taking advantage of NESLi and JISC deals; "working
towards" COUNTER compliancy is not as convincing as "we will be COUNTER
compliant within x months". 

In 2007 COUNTER will start to independently audit its members in order
to ensure that standards are being met. For me this stamp of approval
will be one quality "chartermark" on which publishers should be judged.
Maybe in future licencing bodies will look for this stamp as a basis for
contractual negotiations? Is there a COUNTER rep on the JWG?

I realise that for smaller publishers the costs involved in producing
stats is an overhead not easily afforded, but raising standards is often
a painful process for all.

Cliff.

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group 
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of T W Graham
>Sent: 16 October 2006 15:08
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Nil-Usage Enquiry
>
>Cliff
>
>I was talking with CCL today. They mentioned that an e-mail 
>from you on this list had raised the issue of NESLi2 
>engagement on the Stats issue. 
>
>I have a meeting of the JWG next week. Do you want to have a 
>word about this before then? 
>
>Tom 
>
>Dr Thomas W Graham
>University Librarian
>Robinson Library
>Newcastle University
>NE2 4HQ
>Tel: 44 (0) 191-222-7587
>E-mail: [log in to unmask]
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group 
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cliff Spencer
>Sent: 05 October 2006 16:49
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Nil-Usage Enquiry
>
>For clues look at the Key Performance Indicators on 
>www.lib-stats.org.uk
>
>
>We cover quite a bit of this during UKSG workshops. Next one 
>in Nov - Oxford.
>
>Join Lib-stats for more info.
>
>C.
>
>===
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>>From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group 
>>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Porter Miles
>>Sent: 05 October 2006 15:33
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Nil-Usage Enquiry
>>
>>Apologies for cross posting.
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>> 
>>
>>Can anyone let me know if there is an official (or
>>'unofficial') industry nil-usage accepted percentage for 
>online journal 
>>packages (publisher or aggregated)? In relation to this, is there a 
>>standard to describe low/medium/high usage i.e. number of articles 
>>downloaded per annum? I'm considering using some sort of weighting 
>>applied against individual title cost and then total package cost to 
>>provide some sort of worth rating.
>>
>> 
>>
>>Any suggestions much appreciated.
>>
>>Miles Porter
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