Hi Antonio,
Stephen already answered your question, so let me just mention that the
experiment is always useful: try to do glite-job-list-match and edg-job-list-
match for the same simple JDL without any requirements, and compare the
outputs. This is the easiest way to see the differences...
Best regards, Antun
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---------- Original Message -----------
From: Antonio Delgado Peris <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:16:53 +0200
Subject: Re: [LCG-ROLLOUT] Upgrade to glite 3_0_4
> Hi Antun,
>
> A related question (sorry to deviate from original question).
>
> If a LCG RB can't send jobs to gLite CEs, then those CEs shouldn't
> match for a job sent through an LCG RB, right?
>
> How is that accomplished then, if they all appear in the top BDIIs?
> Is there something different in the information published for a
> gLite CE and a LCG CE?
>
> Thanks you.
>
> Antonio.
>
> Antun Balaz escribió:
> > Hi Piotr,
> >
> > There are two types of CEs currently: lcg-CE and gliteCE. lcg-CE is LCG
> > flavoured gLite CE, while gliteCE is pure gLite CE. Note that you cannot
> > claim that you have gliteCE and install lcg-CE - it will result in
errors.
> > You can also see which sites have gliteCE installed: try glite-job-list-
> > match with the JDL file without any requirements, and filter those CEs
with
> > the blah job manager - that will give you the complete list. There are
at
> > least 35 gLite-CEs registered in GOCDB with monitoring enabled: you can
use
> > the R-GMA query like this one:
> >
> > select * from GocNode_v0_4 where (nodetype='gLite-CE' or
nodetype2='gLite-
> > CE') and monitor='Y'
> >
> > Some of them are belonging to pre-production sites, true, but many of
them
> > belong to the production sites.
> >
> > Note also that GIIS monitoring is not connected with SFT problems. GStat
> > curretnly shows stale information, but it will probably be fixed soon.
> >
> > Regarding the distinguishing between different CEs by SFTs, this is
easy:
> > LCG SFTs are sent to CEs recorded in GOCDB as lcg-CEs, and glite SFTs to
> > those recorded as gLite-CEs. lcg-CE cannot successfully execute glite-
> > flavoured SFT...
> >
> > Best regards, Antun
> >
> > -----
> > Antun Balaz
> > Research Assistant
> > E-mail: [log in to unmask]
> > Web: http://scl.phy.bg.ac.yu/
> >
> > Phone: +381 11 3160260, Ext. 152
> > Fax: +381 11 3162190
> >
> > Scientific Computing Laboratory
> > Institute of Physics, Belgrade, Serbia
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> >
> > ---------- Original Message -----------
> > From: Piotr Siwczak <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:54:23 +0200
> > Subject: [LCG-ROLLOUT] Upgrade to glite 3_0_4
> >
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> Recently I've been struggling to upgrade my site from LCG to gLite
> >> using 'Generic installation and configuration guide'. As said in the
> >> manual, I downloaded and installed the RPMs with yum and ran yaim to
> >> configure node type glite-CE. Site seems to be running fine and
> >> accepts grid jobs. But this is the point where good things stop. The
> >> upgrade triggered some issues I was not aware of and which were not
> >> mentioned neither in manuals nor wikis: -> first of all, site GIIS
> >> monitoring stopped working. The situation did not change even when I
> >> changed node type to glite-CE in GOCDB. -> SFT jobs would not run
> >> because of GIIS not functioning the way SFT wanted -> as a result of
> >> this, my site started receiving tickets ;-( I started to investigate
> >> problem further and noticed that most of the sites claiming
> >> gLite3_0_X actually run old LCG middleware. If a particular site
> >> runs gLite CE, the monitoring is turned off. My question is - how
> >> does SFT distinguish between old LCG-type CE and new gLite CE even
> >> if "gLite CE" runs the same services as LCG-CE? I am aware of the
> >> fact that I should be running 2 types of CEs to faciliate transition
> >> between LCG and gLite, but none of my sources of information
> >> mentioned that monitoring would stop working when I switch 100% to
> >> gLite. Is such information available officially (manuals,wikis??)
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> -Piotr
> >>
> >> --
> >> Piotr Siwczak <[log in to unmask]>
> >> System Administrator
> >>
> >> Poznan Supercomputing and Networking Center
> >> Supercomputing Department
> >>
> >> (www.eu-egee.org <[log in to unmask]>)
> >> --
> >>
> > ------- End of Original Message -------
> >
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