Dear Scott
Thank you this would have been very helpful to me in my last application for
chartership post... given up applying now just dont have the time to pull
together these applications and carry out my current role when it doesnt
not actually get read by the people you send it to!
- I dont work in academia or a research dept so somewhat isolated from help
in this area and have not had much sympathy from academics when I point this
out at all- there seems to be the belief that people know this stuff
already - perhaps we have uncovered something that could be incorporate more
into Msc courses final modules?
I have never had to budget for research before but do budget for my own
service and have applied for ethics approval sucessfully at graduate level
but I dont have links with a uni any more as a student so am able to do this
if given a framework to start from.
Thank you for the links also .
Good luck to all others.
KFox
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From: "Doyle, Scott" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: PhD proposals
Hello Delaney and the rest of the list,
My first contribution- very exciting. Anyways. I have been going through a
similar process at the moment. Unfortunately my problem does not lie in the
proposal but rather the £150K needed for the research.
1.) In response to your questions. I would definitely include cost issues;
try to break it down as specifically as possible. This can be difficult if
you've never budget for your own research before. Remember to include
everything from travel and hotel costs, to salary, to printing fees, to
remunerations for patients of physicians, and even build in the cost of
using licensed questionnaires (although most of these will be free for
academic research). Even if you are self-funding the university will
probably want to see these. In the event that you apply for external
funding, they will definitely want to see a cost breakdown.
2.) As far as the length of the proposal, I personally feel that 3-4 pages
may not be enough to explain in detail what it is that you plan to answer.
The single biggest time saver in your PhD is going to be having a well
formulated question and well thought out methodology, right from the
beginning. Ethics will be another time issue for you. If you are working
with health people that you will recruit yourself you should be able to
receive ethics approval from the university committee. However, as it is a
health psych program there is a good chance you might be involved in using
patient from the NHS. This will necessitate an ethics submission to the
Central Office for Research Ethics Committees (COREC). You can find their
site on www.corec.org.uk and the forms on www.corecform.org.uk. This is a
fore warning if you've never made a submission to COREC- they are hard
a**es. Depending on the committee they can be extremely pedantic and slow
moving, not to mention that the standard form is about 80 pages long. This
will usually inject about a 3 month delay into any work, so build that in to
your time.
3.) A full-time PhD is usually about 3 years. That is you will submit your
thesis and sit your viva approx. 3 years from the start of your course. A
part-time PhD is double this to about 6 years. These are rough guidelines.
Many schools will not allow you to submit beyond three years, others will,
many will also not allow you to submit before 2 years is up. Each school is
different and should explain their rules on the websites.
I hope this all helps. Some other good resources can be found at the
following websites:
www.educationuk.org.uk
www.grad.ac.uk
I would also recommend "How to get a PhD" by Estelle Philips and Derek Pugh.
It would be a good resource to have around before, during, and after the
PhD.
Good luck. If you have other questions you can get me on
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-----Original Message-----
From: Health Psychology Postgraduate Network
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Delaney Bucknor
Sent: 01 June 2006 21:36
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Subject: PhD proposals
Hi everyone,
I am currently writing up a PhD Health Psychology proposal. All seems to be
going well but I have a few issues. Its nothing like an MSc proposal.
1. Do I have to include costing issues in my proposal? I originally thought
that the PhD fees would cover the costs of undertaking my research. I keep
hearing about costing. Can someone inform me? I'm self-funding.
2. How detailed been does the brief proposal have to be? Universities keep
saying 3-4pages. I thought it was just background with research questions,
methodology, methods, potential analysis of data and references. My past
supervisors believe that my draft proposal is fine, but they keep giving
recommedations to add (costing, ethics, timetable etc). Now I am stuggling
to keep my proposal in 4pages (references make a 5th page, is this okay?).
3. I can't find an example of an appropriate timetable for carrying out the
PhD. I don't know whats realistic.
Thanks
Delaney
Thanks
Delaney
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