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Subject:

Re: sform unknown

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Mark Jenkinson <[log in to unmask]>

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FSL - FMRIB's Software Library <[log in to unmask]>

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Sat, 13 May 2006 13:14:06 -0700

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Hi,

Sorry about the delay - just got back from ISMRM.

Your file has not actually got a valid qform set.
If you look at the qform_name it is "Unknown".
When both the qform and the sform are Unknown, as in
this case, the contents of the qform and sform matrices
are ignored and a default "radiological" matrix is used
instead.  The default matrix will have a negative value
for the 1st diagonal element and positive for the other
diagonal elements.

So your images are all being interpretted the same as
in the Analyze case (which also uses the default "radiological"
setting).  This is why Feat works correctly and gives you
correct left-right activations.

Note that converting from Analyze to nifti using avwchfiletype
(or any other fsl utility) will set the qform and sform to Unknown
(unless a non-zero origin is set in the Analyze file) and will
therefore keep a "radiological" orientation.  As long as you
continue to convert the images like this then things should be
OK.

Hope this answers your questions.
All the best,
	Mark


On 9 May 2006, at 17:24, Vishwadeep Ahluwalia wrote:

> Hi,
> Sorry to send another orientation question. I ve 241 functional  
> time series images in the analyze
> format that i convert to nifti using avwmerge. i ran avwhd on the  
> nifti file and it gave me the
> following output...
> filename       erpspiral.nii.gz
>
> sizeof_hdr     348
> data_type      INT16
> dim0           4
> dim1           64
> dim2           64
> dim3           25
> dim4           241
> dim5           1
> dim6           1
> dim7           1
> vox_units      mm
> time_units     s
> datatype       4
> nbyper         2
> bitpix         16
> pixdim0        0.0000000000
> pixdim1        3.7500000000
> pixdim2        3.7500000000
> pixdim3        4.0000000000
> pixdim4        1.0000000000
> pixdim5        1.0000000000
> pixdim6        1.0000000000
> pixdim7        1.0000000000
> vox_offset     352
> cal_max        0.0000
> cal_min        0.0000
> scl_slope      1.000000
> scl_inter      0.000000
> phase_dim      0
> freq_dim       0
> slice_dim      0
> slice_name     Unknown
> slice_code     0
> slice_start    0
> slice_end      0
> slice_duration 0.000000
> time_offset    0.000000
> intent         Unknown
> intent_code    0
> intent_name
> intent_p1      0.000000
> intent_p2      0.000000
> intent_p3      0.000000
> qform_name     Unknown
> qform_code     0
> qto_xyz:1      3.750000  0.000000  0.000000  0.000000
> qto_xyz:2      0.000000  3.750000  0.000000  0.000000
> qto_xyz:3      0.000000  0.000000  4.000000  0.000000
> qto_xyz:4      0.000000  0.000000  0.000000  1.000000
> qform_xorient  Left-to-Right
> qform_yorient  Posterior-to-Anterior
> qform_zorient  Inferior-to-Superior
> sform_name     Unknown
> sform_code     0
> sto_xyz:1      0.000000  0.000000  0.000000  0.000000
> sto_xyz:2      0.000000  0.000000  0.000000  0.000000
> sto_xyz:3      0.000000  0.000000  0.000000  0.000000
> sto_xyz:4      0.000000  0.000000  0.000000  0.000000
> sform_xorient  Unknown
> sform_yorient  Unknown
> sform_zorient  Unknown
> file_type      NIFTI-1+
> file_code      1
> descrip        FSL3.3
> aux_file
>
> running avworient -getorient gives me Radiological. i also ve  
> structural dicom data that i
> converted to analyze using SPM5 and then to nifti using  
> avwchfiletype. running avwhd on that
> gives me qform orientation and sform as Right - left  and avworient  
> -getorient gives me
> radiological.
>  Why does avworient -getorient output show both as radiological  
> while their qformorient entries
> are opposite?
> and considering that my functional images are L-R ,P-A ,I-S ; how  
> does FEAT show the output
> correctly (since i do get right hemispheric activation for left  
> finger tapping) considering that my
> functional data has a different qformorient than both the  
> structural and standard?
>
> I read previous posts on orientation issues but couldnt find one  
> that had unknown sform issue
> mixed in. any help would be appreciated.
>
> regards,
>
> Vishwadeep A.
> Grad. Student
> Medical Physics Program
> VCU

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