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Subject:

FSLVIEW / nifti / analyze orientation

From:

Neil Killeen <[log in to unmask]>

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FSL - FMRIB's Software Library <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:09:26 +1100

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text/plain (105 lines) , 0001-analyze-spm2-hdr.txt (65 lines) , 0001-nii-debabler-hdr.txt (70 lines) , Unknown Name (3 lines)

Hi all

an old friend; orientation.

The FAQ says

"FSLVIEW always displays images "radiologically". Hence, any  
"neurologically" ordered nifti image will be flipped in the (voxel) x- 
axis when it is displayed in FSLVIEW. FSLVIEW also now labels the  
axes (e.g. L, R, P, A, I, S - Left, Right, Posterior, Anterior,  
Inferior, Superior). In the case of oblique acquisitions it chooses  
the "closest" axis label."

I have a DICOM image which I have converted to Analyze (with SPM2)  
and NIFTI (with
the LONI debabeler).   The Analyze image is in RADIOLOGICAL order   
and the
NIFTI in NEUROLOGICAL order.   Viz:


% avworient -getorient 0001.nii
NEUROLOGICAL
% avworient -getorient 0001-spm2.hdr
RADIOLOGICAL

and I have attached the headers (from avwhd)


Display
-----------

Now when I display these images, the analyze one displays
as I expect with   R on the left of the screen, P on the bottom, S on  
the top.

However,  the NIFTI image is oriented rather strangely with R to
the right of the screen, P to the top and S to the top (ok).   In  
light of the above
quote, I expected FSLVIEW to display the image in the same orientation
as the analyze image (or at least with respect to R and L;  I tried  
to attach
screen shots but the message was rejected as too large)

The labels in both cases are correct in the sense that R is next to  
the right side of the brain
(I know which side of the brain is right for this person).


Can you comment  ?



Header
-----------

I am also a bit puzzled by the coordinates.  This is probably not  
your group's bother, as the conversions
are done by SPM and LONI, but I am using FSLVIEW to measure the  
coordinates.


For the analyze image we have

Right to Left:                 x pixel coordinate increasing 0->63   
and x physical coordinate decreasing 111.56->-95.16  (dx=206.72)
Posterior to Anterior:  y pixel coordinate increasing 0->63  and y  
physical coordinate increasing -95.16->111.56    (dy=206.72)
Inferior to Superior:    z pixel coordinate increasing 0->28  and z  
physical coordinate increasing -30->110                (dz=140)


For the nifti image we have

Right to Left:                 x pixel coordinate increasing 0->63   
and x physical coordinate decreasing 638.14->431.42   (dx=206.72)
Posterior to Anterior:   y pixel coordinate decreasing 63->0  and y  
physical coordinate increasing 434.02->640.35  (dy=206.33, z=14)
Inferior to Superior:     z pixel coordinate increasing 0->28  and z  
physical  coordinate increasing 5.09->144.83 (dz=139.74,y=31)


So what we see here is that  :
    - Right to Left is consistent from Analyze to Nifti
    - Posterior to Anterior is pixel coordinate flipped from Analyze  
to Nifti
    - Inferior to Superior is consistent from Analyze to Nifti

But
    - Physical coordinates are offset between analyze and nifti
    - The nifti coordinates show that the Y and the Z axes are  
coupled (i.e. z changes if I change y and vice versa).
      I didn't expect this and if Y is coupled to Z, I would expect X  
to be coupled also (it's not).


If you have any thoughts in this I would be interested. I will also  
contact the LONI folks.


regards
Neil





filename 0001-spm2.hdr sizeof_hdr 348 data_type dsr db_name fghhjjkkll-0018-0 extents 0 session_error 0 regular r hkey_un0 dim0 4 dim1 64 dim2 64 dim3 29 dim4 1 dim5 0 dim6 0 dim7 0 vox_units mm cal_units unused1 0 datatype 4 bitpix 16 pixdim0 0.0000000000 pixdim1 3.2812500000 pixdim2 3.2812500000 pixdim3 5.0000000000 pixdim4 1.0000000000 pixdim5 0.0000000000 pixdim6 0.0000000000 pixdim7 0.0000000000 vox_offset 0.0000 funused1 0.0558 funused2 0.0000 funused3 0.0000 cal_max 1829.0000 cal_min -1829.0558 compressed 0 verified 0 glmax 32767 glmin -32768 descrip 3T 2D SE\EP TR=2000ms/TE=40ms/FA=90deg 23-Oct-2006 15:28:4.2875 Mosaic aux_file orient 0 originator # origin1 35 origin2 30 origin3 7 generated today scannum patient_id exp_date exp_time hist_un0 views 0 vols_added 0 start_field 0 field_skip 0 omax 0 omin 0 smin 0 smin 0 file_type ANALYZE-7.5 file_code 0
Byte swapping filename 0001.nii sizeof_hdr 348 data_type INT16 dim0 3 dim1 64 dim2 64 dim3 29 dim4 1 dim5 1 dim6 1 dim7 1 vox_units mm time_units Unknown datatype 4 nbyper 2 bitpix 16 pixdim0 0.0000000000 pixdim1 3.2812500000 pixdim2 3.2812500000 pixdim3 5.0000000000 pixdim4 1.0000000000 pixdim5 1.0000000000 pixdim6 1.0000000000 pixdim7 1.0000000000 vox_offset 348 cal_max 0.0000 cal_min 0.0000 scl_slope 0.000000 scl_inter 0.000000 phase_dim 0 freq_dim 0 slice_dim 0 slice_name Unknown slice_code 0 slice_start 0 slice_end 0 slice_duration 0.000000 time_offset 0.000000 intent Unknown intent_code 0 intent_name intent_p1 0.000000 intent_p2 0.000000 intent_p3 0.000000 qform_name Scanner Anat qform_code 1 qto_xyz:1 -3.281250 0.000000 -0.000000 638.135620 qto_xyz:2 0.000000 -3.275130 -0.305243 644.623718 qto_xyz:3 -0.000000 -0.200316 4.990674 11.303008 qto_xyz:4 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 qform_xorient Right-to-Left qform_yorient Anterior-to-Posterior qform_zorient Inferior-to-Superior sform_name Unknown sform_code 0 sto_xyz:1 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 sto_xyz:2 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 sto_xyz:3 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 sto_xyz:4 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 sform_xorient Unknown sform_yorient Unknown sform_zorient Unknown file_type NIFTI-1+ file_code 1 descrip aux_file

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