A giraffe is not pattern, that would be like saying we are skin or
hair rather than human
rob
On 21 Jul 2006, at 15:57, Duff, Leo wrote:
> Dear David
>
> I agree with what you are saying as I too believe in 'connection'
> to what we are doing , where we are etc and its influence on how we
> are.
>
> Learning to draw, practicing drawing and keeping drawing is about
> looking / seeing and constant learning and certinaly helps fine
> tune the senses to the place, where ever it is. So, the marks we
> observe which are phenomenonology, or which are environmental or
> from nature are noticed perhaps by those who draw regulalry more
> acutley and interpreted in different ways. Just as photographers
> work with composition and ''think'' with composition, a drawer
> interprets marks of the sort this conversation today has been about ?
>
> best wishes leo
>
> ps. I agree, giraffe, that is a pattern. My favourite confusing
> definition of a category of drawing is pattern versus texture.
>
> Leo Duff
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> Leo, hi
>
> I continue to 'evolve' the notion of 'phenomenological drawing'.
> Terrible name, but I use it to indicate the way in which things draw
> themselves; and then how we might observe and reflect upon, and maybe
> influence, these marks. It is part of my practice as an ecological
> artist and is something I develop in my Postgraduate Option, 'Drawing
> on Life' - how are we, as humans connected to our environment (ground
> and object / object and ground)?
>
> All the best
>
> David
>
> On 21 Jul 2006, at 09:55, Duff, Leo wrote:
>
>> I agree with your pupil, its a pretty tight and neat 'definition'.
>>
>> However, what about the more etheral or ephemeral ways of drawing.
>> With these clear skies around where I live at present airplane jet
>> trails make fabulous marks on the atmosphere (not entering a debate
>> about global warming), marks on snow or on sand, and one of my
>> favourites, shadows.
>>
>> I have in my office at Kingston an ever growing record of peoples
>> works where they are pointedly attempting to 'Define Categories of
>> Drawing'. if anyone is researching this subject I would be glad to
>> share some of these with them .
>>
>> best wishes
>>
>> leo duff
>>
>>
>>
>> Leo Duff
>> Faculty of Art,Design & Architecture
>> Kingston University
>> Knights Park
>> Kingston Upon Thames
>> Surrey KT1 2QJ
>> UK
>>
>> 00 44 (0) 20 8547 8492
>> fax : 00 44 (0) 20 8547 8471
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>> From: The UK drawing research network mailing list on behalf of
>> Rachel
>> Pearcey
>> Sent: Fri 21/07/2006 08:46
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>> Subject: Re: Definition of drawing
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>>
>> Whatever makes a mark, on whatever takes a mark.
>>
>> I think I will embroider that on a cushion.
>> Rachel
>>
>> On 21/7/06 8:38 am, "Rob Appleby" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>
>>
>> Hello all,
>> Just thought I would share this with you all. An 11 year old
>> pupil of
>> mine managed to define drawing after about half an hour of thinking
>> and discussing.
>> She thinks it is .... Whatever makes a mark, on whatever
>> takes a mark.
>> The future looks bright!
>>
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