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Re: Copying materpieces

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Christine Flint Sato <[log in to unmask]>

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Sun, 9 Jul 2006 03:40:06 +0000

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Hi Patricia
I'm based in Japan and do ink (sumi ) work. I spent 10 years studying 
calligraphy with a Japanese master calligrapher and then more recently three 
years  studying ink painting with a Chinese artist. The main, though not the 
only, method of learning in both schools was copying the masters.

In the former case the teacher differentiated three levels of copying,the 
first was practising and mastering techniques to reproduce a master's 
calligraphic style. It was the necessary nuts and bolts  which you need to 
understand how the calligrapher writes, and what makes what s/he's doing 
special. The second stage was interpretation. Once we'd become skilful 
enough in the initial stage, we moved onto interpretation. In this stage we 
used the master's work as a base from which to play with his style. We were 
still within the gambit of what he'd written, so what we did was 
recognisably derived from it , but we gave it our own 'colouring' so to 
speak.  The final stage was creative, in which we did not refer back to the 
master's work, but took elements we had learned and enjoyed, or were 
captivated by to make our own work.

In the case of the ink painting, the teacher was very free and allowed us to 
wander through the masters following our whim /muse.  I think in other 
classes he provided photocopied copies of motifs from painting manuals. In 
my case, I decided to study one subject matter each term, so concentrated on 
copying master works of say water(sea, rivers waterfalls) for one term, then 
rocks etc the next and so on.  I found this a good way forward as I could 
choose the masterworks specifically for my purpose. I would choose according 
to techniques,style,artist. The teacher was happy for me to do this and 
would suggest works I could use week by week.

What did I learn from this method of learning?
I learned the basic techniques, styles, and because I didn't stay too long 
in the system have I think been able to use them for my own ends. The 
aesthetic is kind of in my bones as it permeates in unconsciously, but with 
awareness it is possible to unpick those bits I don't want or to work 
further with the parts which engage me. It is necessary to keep questioning 
but simultaneously to allow the body to speak (which is what the copying 
allows) , as with this artform the sumi registers everything and you need to 
be moving freely. It 's a balance and being mindful or careful of what I'm 
doing can help correct bias - I usually realise it much later, and it seems 
to take time but that's the way of it, it seems!
I'm happy to go into more detail if you'd like, let me know.
Christine





>From: David Haley <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The UK drawing research network mailing list              
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>Subject: Re: Copying materpieces
>Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 23:01:53 +0100
>
>Patricia, hi
>
>Hope you are well.
>
>I wrote this extract a year, or so ago as part of a contribution to the 
>Social Sculpture web exhibition on greenmuseum.org  -  Due to ill health, I 
>don't think the exhibition was published:
>
>"Judy Ling Wong, the director of BEN (Black Environmental Network) 
>explained some lessons she had learned about the practice of traditional 
>Chinese art:
>
>In China the student/apprentice spends much time reproducing the Masters 
>work.  We learn from nature by drawing nature and we learn from art by 
>drawing art.  There is no such thing as copyingE that is a silly idea. 
>Nobody can make a copy Eonly a photocopier can do this.  Every time the 
>student draws from the Masters work, the student is recreating an artwork 
>Emaking new art.
>
>The artist has a duty to pass on their art to others.  In the West, notions 
>of genius and uniqueness mean that an artists work dies with them.  In the 
>East, however, achievement is measured by the effectiveness of the Masters 
>transfer of knowledge to other artists.  This makes for a living art and 
>meaningful legacy."
>
>I hope this contributes to your search...
>
>All the very best
>
>David
>
>On 6 Jul 2006, at 14:20, Patricia Cain wrote:
>
>>I'd be grateful if anyone could give me references concerning the 
>>reproduction or copying of masterpieces please.
>>  In particular, I'm interested in the subject from the point of view of 
>>what can be learnt from doing this, or any first person accounts which 
>>might relate to this.
>>
>>
>>  Kind regards,
>>
>>Trish
>>
>>
>>
>>Patricia Cain
>>  PhD Researcher
>>  Glasgow School of Art
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