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From: "Karen Wallis" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: Groundlessness
>I would like to suggest that the gap between pen and ground / gesture
> and mark is also a state of groundlessness in all drawing practice.
> The gap between intention and result is a perpetual occurrence in all
> attempts to express a concept in the concrete form of drawing. It's
> one of the reasons we keep on trying to do it... Mark's work seems
> to be revealing this problem in an interesting mix of the virtual and
> the real.
>
> Karen
>
>>Mark
>>
>>Thanks, that is much clearer. I now not only understanbd
>>but am intruiged.
>>
>>Can I ask this: does the gap between gesture and mark
>>frustrate? (I presume, perhaps in error, that the
>>machine acts in discord to an artist's intent).
>>
>>Another question: can "groundlessness" be turned to artistic
>>advantage?
>>
>>I will resist asking further questions - though I have many.
>>
>>Finally, it turns out groundlessness has analogy in other
>>disciplines (there is nothing new under the sun, one recalls).
>>
>>best - and thanks again
>>Peter
>>
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> Sorry if my explanation is less than clear. Let me try
>>> again.
>>>
>>> The idea (in plainer English) is that the majority of
>>> tradtional drawing media more or less involve direct
>>> contact between pen and ground. In software this is
>>> not the case, as we have to rely on computer
>>> algorithms to interpret our gestures. As a programmer
>>> and artist, I indentify this as a gap: the distance
>>> between a gesture and the resulting authographic mark.
>>> The frameworks I have developed make use of a variety
>>> of technological apparatus and software processes to
>>> move drawing about in order to do things with it that
>>> you couldn't ordinarily do without assistance. While
>>> drawing is being shoved about in this way, I refer to
>>> it as being groundless, it's just information, and it
>>> is only when reproductive processes become involved
>>> that it is made into a static object again;
>>> intersemiosis.
>>>
>>> So really, it's about peeling drawing from one kind of
>>> surface, doing something with it (groundless), and
>>> then applying it to another.
>>>
>>> Is this making it any clearer, because as you say it
>>> ought to have a simple explanation.
>>>
>>>
>> > Mark.
>
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