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Subject:

Re: Groundlessness

From:

Peter Hall <[log in to unmask]>

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The UK drawing research network mailing list <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 7 Jul 2006 00:33:22 +0100

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Mark

Thanks, that is much clearer. I now not only understanbd
but am intruiged.

Can I ask this: does the gap between gesture and mark
frustrate? (I presume, perhaps in error, that the
machine acts in discord to an artist's intent).

Another question: can "groundlessness" be turned to artistic
advantage?

I will resist asking further questions - though I have many.

Finally, it turns out groundlessness has analogy in other
disciplines (there is nothing new under the sun, one recalls).

best - and thanks again
Peter

> Peter,
>
> Sorry if my explanation is less than clear. Let me try
> again.
>
> The idea (in plainer English) is that the majority of
> tradtional drawing media more or less involve direct
> contact between pen and ground. In software this is
> not the case, as we have to rely on computer
> algorithms to interpret our gestures. As a programmer
> and artist, I indentify this as a gap: the distance
> between a gesture and the resulting authographic mark.
> The frameworks I have developed make use of a variety
> of technological apparatus and software processes to
> move drawing about in order to do things with it that
> you couldn't ordinarily do without assistance. While
> drawing is being shoved about in this way, I refer to
> it as being groundless, it's just information, and it
> is only when reproductive processes become involved
> that it is made into a static object again;
> intersemiosis.
>
> So really, it's about peeling drawing from one kind of
> surface, doing something with it (groundless), and
> then applying it to another.
>
> Is this making it any clearer, because as you say it
> ought to have a simple explanation.
>
>
> Mark.
>
>
> --- Peter Hall <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> I confess I have no idea what "groundlessness" is.
>>
>> Any idea that has merit has a simple explanation,
>> even that explanation is only by analogy.
>>
>> I am afraid Marks explanation cast no light at all
>> for me.
>>
>> At this point in time the term appears have more
>> wind
>> than substance - but I'm willing to learn.
>>
>> I would need a _clear_ explanation, rather than one
>> which
>> a contender for a prize from the plain English
>> society.
>>
>>
>> Peter
>>
>
>
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