Thanks for all the hints and suggestions. And many thanks for a couple of
backchannelled offers of help which I'll get back to soon.
Unless I've misunderstood the answers I think my dilemma remains, and I'm
interested that it does. I want an anthology of book based visual poetry
from say the last fifty years or so. (I take your point about the technical
difficulties, Mairead, and some stuff would get missed out, but there must
be enough work capable of being reproduced on paper which could give an
interested but non-expert reader a way into 'visual' poetry. Like an
anthology of poetry but an anthology of modern and contemporary visual
poetry.
Given the importance of the visual, from Pound onwards, from Dada and
Surrealism, through the work in Emmetts anthology, the conceptual importance
of the materialism of the text to the language poets and beyond, it seems
strange there isn't one by at least one major publisher.
Maybe its the concept that is too diverse to allow that to happen. And maybe
that's part of what's interesting about visual work, that it is so hard to
coategorise. I even find the terminology difficult, and end up resorting to
clumsy phrases such as poetry that emphasises the visual. All poetry is
visual of course, we know a poems is a poem because, first of all, it looks
like one, and what it looks like may also give an indication of the
regularity of its form. I suppose the distinction I'd make is between poetry
that , if reproduced might not necessarily use the same font etc, and poetry
that if reproduced would.
Ian
>From: "sheppard3" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: "ian davidson" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: anthology of visual or concrete poetry
>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 23:30:49 -0000
>
>There's stuff in the Writers Forum anthologies: Verbi Visi Voco and Word
>Score Choreography .
>
>Cobbing and Mayer@ Concerning Concrete Poetry (Writers Forum) is good.
>
>There's some stuff in MacCaffrey and Jed Rasula's Imagining Language.
>
>
>for starters
>
>
>Ro9hbert
>
>
>See PAGES blogzine online at www.robertsheppard.blogspot.com.
>
>Read a profile of Robert Sheppard at
>www.soton.ac.uk/~bepc/poets/Sheppard.htm.
>
>Buy TIN PAN ARCADIA online at www.saltpublishing.com
>----- Original Message ----- From: "ian davidson" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:33 AM
>Subject: anthology of visual or concrete poetry
>
>
>I want to buy an anthology of visual or concrete poetry as a present. And i
>suddenly realised i couldn't think of one except for Emmett Williams An
>Anthology of Concrete Poetry listed at £80 on Amazon. And that was
>published
>in 1960 something.
>
>Is there one? I can't think of one. Am I missing something? I suppose i
>want
>something fairly general that covered the 1950s more graphic work through
>the Canadian and London typewriter and photocopier experiemnts and then to
>more contemporary stuff.
>
>Any leads appreciated.
>
>Ian
>
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