Thank you Mairead!
I promise not to crack any awful jokes about Byrne's Nights.
Seriously, Ric was a star.
All the Best
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "mairead byrne" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: other lists
Welcome back David. I had forgotten UK Poets was by invitation only &
then I remembered. As far as I'm concerned, *we're* the in crowd.
We must be! We're here! I think you're so right to remember Ric
Caddel. I'm honored to be part of this list.
Mairead
On 2/28/06, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I'd guess, Mairead, Elizabeth, Alison, that what Roger is reacting to is
the
> projection of an 'in-crowd'. Now, whatever the rights and wrongs, cris's
> initial post re Barry Alpert's message did convey a kind of sense that a
> secret had been let out.
> Now apologies here straightaway for second-guessing Roger and too to cris
> for characterising his post, these comments so far are just
impressionistic.
>
> I can give my own take on things: (maybe here I'm on surer ground, at
least
> I must have some idea or authority even in saying what I maybe think or
> sometimes feel) I did feel +embarrassed+ on realising which list the
> UKPoetry was that I'd naively applied to join - if I'd recognised what it
> was I wouldn't have asked for a clubcard - needless to say I haven't been
> subscribed nor would I expect to be - I'm painfully aware of the oddities
of
> my own position - in being both a person at the bottom of the social heap,
> esconsed (sp?) here in the social housing tower block BUT at the same time
> writing poems that occasionaly exhibit evidence of intelligence, it is
> rather like being a pet monkey that suddenly shows it can talk, but all
that
> stuff is just me and there are far more serious issues in this world than
my
> own petty privations.
>
> As has been mentioned, this list was founded on openness, that was dear
late
> Richard Caddell's vision of it, and we need honour it.
>
> All the Best
>
> A mellow in cynicism Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mairead byrne" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 1:32 AM
> Subject: Re: other lists
>
>
> Congratulations on your book Anny. That's great news. As March
> arrives, the more good news the better. Roger, *this* is the VIP
> enclosure, and it's open.
> Mairead
>
> On 2/27/06, Roger Day <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Now don't you go knocking on Barry Alpert. I've known about UKPoetry
> > for a while and I've been curious as to the view behind the curtain.
> > Now...*shrugs*
> >
> > Of course, Chris, you want to consort with the right sort of person
> > with the right sort of ideas, no one awkward to spoil the view. Who
> > can blame you? I'm glad you made it into the VIP enclosure. I hope you
> > find what you want there.
> >
> > It all seems so very *English*.
> >
> > As to Miami - Miami *Ohio* Excellent! I was just about to crack wise
> > with the Jeb jokes as well - this is even better. Ohio, home of the
> > Wright brothers, Ulysses S Grant and dayglo. Still, it's not Miami,
> > Fla is it? Myself, I've always wanted a croc named Elvis.
> >
> > bile and nausea
> > Roger
> >
> > On 2/27/06, cris cheek <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > well the UKpoetry list is not at all an open list
> > >
> > > it is invites and recommmendations only and Barry Alpert knows this.
> > > He was completely out of order mentioning it.
> > >
> > > ofc that will get everybody going but it's the case and it has been
> > > for about 4 years
> > >
> > > love and love
> > > cris
> > >
> > > miami university
> > > oxford. oh
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:47 PM, Roger Day wrote:
> > >
> > > > to subscribe, email
> > > >
> > > > [log in to unmask]
> > > >
> > > > with the words "subscribe ukpoetry" in the body. The listowner will
> > > > then decide if your eyes are the right colour ... I jest.
> > > >
> > > > I've always wondered why a university in Miami would host an email
> > > > list for UKPOETRY. I've not seen the reverse (unless anyone can tell
> > > > me different). In my more mordant moments I think of imperialism,
> > > > although this may be described as "rich". English-speaking poets do
> > > > seem to have this fascination for American poetry. Something to do
> > > > with ... coolness ...
> > > >
> > > > Mind you, I often wonder why more established English, Welsh or
> > > > Scottish poets don't subscribe to UK lists. Sometimes, I think of
> > > > private rooms, vip-cordoned areas, where these people meet, discuss,
> > > > depart. I'm wearing my tin-foil hat so it must be true.
> > > >
> > > > Roger
> > > >
> > > > On 2/24/06, Barry Alpert <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >> I find that subscribing to both BRITISH-POETS and UKPOETRY
> > > >> provides the
> > > >> fullest view of poetry & poets in Great Britain that one is likely
to
> > > >> acquire through listservs. The official address on the digest is
> > > >> [log in to unmask] Barry Alpert
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.badstep.net/
> > > > http://www.cb1poetry.org.uk/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.badstep.net/
> > http://www.cb1poetry.org.uk/
> >
>
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