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Subject:

Re: hire vehicles and Part 3

From:

npt Access <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Accessibuilt list <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:17:12 -0000

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text/plain (302 lines) , 2003 Accesible Private Hire Vehicles.doc (302 lines)

You may wish to read the attached DTR/Disability Rights Commission booklet.
Especially page 9 on affordability

 
Regards,
 
Cliff Croft
Neath Port Talbot Access group
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Hunt, Alan
Sent: 15 March 2006 09:51
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: hire vehicles and Part 3

Many thanks Neil and Dave for the responses....

This seems to be a tricky one to me because a vehicle with a tail lift will
usually cost more to hire than one without. Am I correct in thinking that it
would be reasonable generally to offer the vehicle at a higher rate but be
prepared to make an adjustment in the rate (ie the same as a vehicle without
the tail lift) if a disabled person requires the tail lift to be able to use
the vehicle?. I can understand that it would be reasonable to provide blocks
on the foot pedals or provide a wide rear view mirror because this would
enable a person to drive the vehicle (whether it has a tail lift or not)but
how does this relate to the fact that the vehicle has a tail lift? In theory
anyone with a blue badge could hire the vehicle at a reduced rate to move
furniture for instance. If this were a public service vehicle then it would
obviously not be reasonable to charge more for the fare to ride in it just
because it has a tail lift but I don't see the relevance when the vehicle is
being hired out without a driver. I don't see the link between the vehicle
having a tail lift and the ability of a person being able to hire it... a
tail lift is obviously essential to allow some passengers to board the
vehicle but are passengers a consideration for a vehicle hire company? It is
the driver who usually has to sign the agreement.

Perhaps I can't see the wood for the trees..... any more advice would be
much appreciated.

Alan 

-----Original Message-----
From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Neil Smith
Sent: 15 March 2006 09:09
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: hire vehicles and Part 3

Unfortunately Dave at present transport providers are exempt from the DDA
part 3  (DDA 1995 s 19 (5)(b)) - this exemption is removed in December this
year as part of the DDA 2005 - therefore, at present, as I understand the
situation they can charge extra if they so desire!

Regards
Neil Smith 
Senior Access Consultant

Centre for Accessible Environments
70 South Lambeth Road
London SW8 1RL
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Tel/textphone 020 7840 0125  Fax 020 7840 5811
www.cae.org.uk


> Hi Alan
> DDA Part 3, code of practice makes it very clear that no extra charge
> can be applied. see either the 1999 or 2005 editions.
> Regards
> Dave Croft
> 
> Alan Hunt wrote:
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>> A vehicle hire operator has a fleet of minibuses, some with and some
>> without a tail lift. Can he charge more for the vehicle with the tail
lift
>> to a group which includes a wheelchair user/s. Does it make a diference
if
>> the vehicle is hired with a driver?
>> 
>> regards
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>> Alan Hunt
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Neil Smith 
Senior Access Consultant

Centre for Accessible Environments
70 South Lambeth Road
London SW8 1RL
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Tel/textphone 020 7840 0125  Fax 020 7840 5811
www.cae.org.uk



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