There is one of these travelators in Asda at Pudsey, I plan to use it as the
1st stage of training to use an escalator for a visually impaired person -
the transition to regular escalator should be less daunting after using the
travelator. I have used a trolley on the one in Pudsey and it is impossible
to push it up or down the travelator. I also wonder what will happen if
power is cut - if the travelator is steep will the trolleys run into people,
if not and they remain fixed to the travelator then how will people manage
to get off the travelator with the trolleys blocking the way?
Regards
Elaine Pinkney
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John Gregory
Sent: 06 June 2006 14:24
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Subject: Re: Travelators
Hi ruth,
Yes, it is accepted that the supermarket trolleys are used on the
travelator. Cannot testify that they are especially adapted for this use,
but I suspect that there must be some mechanism to prevent them from running
away down the travelator. Will have to do more investigations on this next
time I am in Manchester. Meanwhile, an interesting item was given to me
today regarding a Town Centre redevelopment in my area which will
incorporate a new supermarket. It is indicated that travelators are
installed to access the two storey car park above the supermarket instead of
stairs. Minimal lift provision is currently envisaged. Interesting fact
given that the supermarket indicates that wheelchairs and pushchairs use the
lift!
Regards.
John.
John Gregory
Access Officer
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From: Ruth Sims [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 06 June 2006 14:14
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] Travelators
It is interesting to see in your photo John, someone with a trolley full of
food one the 'conveyor' - yet pushchairs/wheelchairs are not advised???
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From: "John Gregory" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: Travelators
> Hi Ruth and Jim,
>
> I used the word travelator merely because I could not think of a
> better description. Perhaps Passenger Conveyor might be more
> appropriate?
Anyway,
> in reply to Jim, the travelator mentioned does go from one floor to
another
> as confirmed by Ruth. I have attached photos of the one I saw in the
> supermarket. It does have level landings at the top and bottom, but
> how useful they would be is debatable given the speed of the
> travelator. I
take
> Jim's point about possible fire hazards beneath the travelator, but I
> was under the impression that new regulations required any debris to
> be
cleared
> from this area, or indeed, have mechanisms in place to prevent the
> collection of such debris - I am probably wrong on this.
>
> Regards.
>
> John.
>
> John Gregory
> Access Officer
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ruth Sims [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 06 June 2006 12:37
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] Travelators
>
>
> I can only go on my personal experience of the one in our local
> shopping centre, which does NOT have the sign mentioning wheelchairs
> and pushchairs being advised to use the lift, and taking my daughter
> in her pushchair on it. Suffice to say, never again - going up is
> fine, coming down is incredibly scary! There is no flat area at the
> top/bottom to give you time to put the brakes on/off, so you end up
> hanging on to the pushchair with
one
> hand, the handrail with the other, trying to lift one foot off the
> floor
to
> sort the brakes whilst moving downhill at speed. Not an enjoyable
> experience. Also, even when I've been on them alone I find walking
downhill
> very disconcerting, especially in anything other than flat shoes, as
> the whole body is tipped forwards if you lose balance at all.
>
> I think the notion is good, and a sound alternative to lifts,
> especially
for
> fire safety as mentioned, but the reality from the one I have tried
> just didn't quite meet up to my expectations. The angle of the ramp is
obviously
> crucial - perhaps it needs to be less steep for moving surfaces than
> the guideline requirements for standard 'stationary' ramps? The
> inclusion of flat running areas at top and bottom would also make them
> more safe for
use
> by wheelchairs and pushchairs (and also therefore more convenient,
> given that often the lifts are not located nearby so you are required
> to do a detour if you arrive at a travelator unexpectedly!).
>
> Dr Ruth Sims
> Design Ergonomics Group
> Department of Design and Technology
> Loughborough University
> Loughborough
> Leicestershire
> LE11 3TU, UK
> Tel: +44 (0)1509 228313
> Fax: +44 (0)1509 223999
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Gregory" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 12:00 PM
> Subject: Travelators
>
>
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Recently there seems to be a trend to install what I call (and this
> > may be
> > incorrect) travelators in place of escalators. These seem to be a
> favourite
> > with supermarkets, but no doubt they are elsewhere.
> >
> > I can see that they may, in certain circumstances, be advantageous,
> > but do other people have any opinions? The installations I have see
> > have signs located at the top and bottom of the travelator saying
> > that 'wheelchairs
> and
> > pushchairs should take the lift'. Obviously this is something to do
> > with the applying and releasing of brakes on wheelchairs when the
> > user has reached the top or bottom. However, would such a device be
> > useful for
> fire
> > evacuation? Also, it is debatable whether Guide Dogs would be able
> > to use such travelators given that the top and bottom of the
> > travelator
> disappears
> > under a ledge similar to an escalator.
> >
> > All thoughts and comments welcomed.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > John.
> >
> > John Gregory
> > Access Officer
> >
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