Rita the argument is that the surgeries is on first and second floor
because the financial gains for ground floor units is high. The
importance is not which levels they are on, they have to be accessible
Building Regulations require all levels to be accessible, so a lift will
be required. I wouldn't try to fight for ground floor but try to obtain
the best access possible, in fact I don't like being in a ground floor
room seeing my GP with people walking past.
The size of lift, stairs positions, ability to comprehend, evacuation
and ability locate the surgery, etc, etc and other things are what is
important and I would argue they are relevant internal arrangements
which planning should be considering.
When considering the size of the lift B Regs argues that a 2000 x 1400
lift will accommodate any chair. I would put a plea for a 2000 deep, not
wide, for this to be the case. The size does need to be considered in
usage terms as well, many people use lifts not just wheelchair users. I
would try to argue for a large lift to be provided because people may
need to be stretchered out (possibly!!) or to ensure that all people can
access the surgery.
Just some thoughts.
Jane
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From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Rita Newton
Sent: 10 October 2006 09:00
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Subject: Re: GP Surgery on 1st and 2nd floors
Dear All
Apologies, have missed some of the emails on this, so I'm probably going
off at a tangent.
Our GP surgery is on two floors.
If a person with an appointment is seeing a doctor who has his surgery
on that particular day upstairs, the person informs the receptionist
that they would prefer to see the doctor in a downstairs room, for which
the surgery always keep one downstairs room free (there will be at least
2 doctors upstairs at any one time), and the GP bobs downstairs to see
the patient because the computer tells him / her to do so. The patient
does not need to need to justify to the receptionist why the doctor
should come downstairs to see them.
This has been the everyday practice at the surgery for at least 20
years, and in my experience the system works well.
Rita
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From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Anthony Rylands
Sent: 10 October 2006 08:34
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Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] GP Surgery on 1st and 2nd floors
Vin,
Any building in general terms always has to be fit for purpose in
planning terms. There would be an opportunity to argue that the standard
of access at upper floor level because of the need to use a lift would
not be as good as having facilities n the ground floor. The question
will be is it good enough... Here you may need to obtain support from
any DoH, PCT or general NHS guidance on health centre design.
It would be the role of the Planning Officer to assess the overall
layout and form of the development even though they will not deal
directly with the internal issues.
Anthony Rylands
Access Officer for Disabled People
North Somerset Council
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From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Sam Chapman
Sent: 10 October 2006 00:20
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Subject: Re: GP Surgery on 1st and 2nd floors
I hate to say this but, shouldn't the developer or/and architect taken
into consideration the fact that wheelchair an impaired mobility access
issues should be part of their design? Furthermore, the surgery being
above ground level, means that a lift be built into the design.
I am being very cynical here, but I suspect the developer or
owner/leaseholder are trying a fast one, maybe so that once the building
is put up, they apply for a grant or financial support etc to install a
lift, rather than include the lift in the cost of the building. That old
often heard lame excuse, that only young people live in the area, should
clobbered straight on the head with, Ok, so what happens if someone is
disabled due to an accident, or a parent has a disabled child?
If this is a planning proposal being put up for acceptance, stand your
ground and get them to try and justify why they should NOT fit a lift in
the building! A hydraulic lift as made by someone like Phoenix Lifts, is
considerably less than the traditional cable tethered OTIS type lift,
and someone should point the developer/owner/leaseholder or health
authority in their direction.
Sam Chapman
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