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Subject:

Re: Tactile pavings

From:

sean <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Accessibuilt list <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 3 Jul 2006 16:44:18 +0100

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the access manual states:

being given the wrong information is often worse than being given no  
information at all. If there is no information, people will alert to  
potential problems. incorrect information could give a false sense of  
security and be potentially dangerous.

Sean


On 3 Jul 2006, at 16:41, Jane Simpson wrote:

> Not sure that I agree, trying to remember where but I believe that  
> research was carried out by the RNIB several years ago and  
> agreement was reached that the risk of walking unknowingly into a  
> vehicular zone was a higher risk than assuming it was a safe crossing  
> point.
>  
> I assume that this was on the basis that a visually impaired person  
> (unless a wheelchair user as well) could step up a pavement and  
> therefore it was the risk of entering a road that was of more  
> importance and that the tactile was a warning to think/get  
> bearings before proceeding.
>  
> I will try to track down further information.
>  
> Regards Jane
>  
>
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> From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf  
> Of Vin
> Sent: 03 July 2006 16:31
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Tactile pavings
>
> Hi Darren,
> the guidance is in 'Guidance on the use of Tactile Paving Surfaces'  
> (link below) but as there is not a crossing point in what you describe  
> then tactile paving is not appropriate as the purpose of blister  
> paving is to alert a blind or vis impaired pedestrian that a safe or  
> controlled crossing point exists at that location.
>  
> http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_mobility/documents/page/ 
> dft_mobility_503283-02.hcsp#P75_13207
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Vin
>  
> Vin West
> Secretary, Arfon Access Group
> Glyn Dwr
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Darren Stratton
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 3:48 PM
>> Subject: Tactile pavings
>>
>> Dear all
>>  
>> I have a situation where there is a small block paved plaza outside a  
>> theatre, adjacent to a taxi rank, incorporating a dropped kerb for  
>> delivery vehicles.
>>  
>> I am wondering whether I should put tactile paving along the kerb  
>> edging between the plaza and the taxi rank. (if so, what type?). I am  
>> concerned that if I put, say, blister paving down (which is used for  
>> pedestrian crossings) this could be interpreted by partially sited  
>> pedestrians as a crossing point, when this is not the case.
>>  
>> I have looked in Part M, BS 8300 etc but I can't seem to find any  
>> clear, definitive guidance.
>>  
>> Any input would be much appreciated.
>>  
>> Many thanks
>>  
>>  
>> Darren Stratton
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