Hi Flick
Hello Flick
Think you've hit on an important point when you say that we are at the
beginning of mainstreaming access issues into planning, for which nothing
will be perfect, but with an iterative and listening process, it possibly
can be achieved, hence we were already assured that you would be in touch
with CABE.
Though .... take care and don't work too hard Flick
Rita
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Flick Harris
Sent: 19 June 2006 17:20
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Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] New CABE guidance
Thanks Marcus!
In case anyone felt I was a bit OTT, be assured I'm in touch with
CABE and hope that anything we come up with will be complementary to
the CABE guidance which looks very good on the design side.
Will post some comments later in the week. A major omission in the
CABE and DCLG guidance seems to me to be the lack of reference to
nationally and locally recognised access standards and the
application of accessibility to most of the elements (other than
landscaping and transport, OK with a few other issues scattered
around, but not integrated into the whole).
I've also had some discussions with the Urban Design Group who are
still writing their publication (referred to in the CABE guidance)
and discussed a few issues relating to Local Development Frameworks
that might be useful as it seems we are very much at the beginning of
the process of mainstreaming access issues into all planning
strategies and frameworks, e.g. guidance on access policies,
Sustainability Appraisals and SCIs as well as generally consulting
with disabled people.
Best wishes
Flick
At 16:31 19/06/2006, you wrote:
>Hi Flick
>
>Good to hear from you I had wondered why you had been so quiet of late.
>
>I am sure that everyone on the list is relieved to hear that you are
feeling
>much better now and looks forward to reading your comments and engaging
with
>you in debate on the issue of access statements. You are doing a very good
>job of flying the flag yourself !
>
>Regards
>Marcus
>
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>Flick Harris
>Sent: 16 June 2006 00:00
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>Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] New CABE guidance
>
>Hi everyone,
>
>First, I just need to explain by absence from the mailing list! I
discovered
>I had cancer in January and have spent the last few months dealing with all
>the medical and other things associated with that!
>
>However, I'm beginning to feel much better now and as you all know have
>taken a special interest in work around access statements.
>
>So was inspired to intervene here, once I had read the new CABE guidance
and
>to let you know that I am writing some detailed criticisms for the Planning
>Advisory Service and CABE as they seem to be unaware of any of the issues.
>
>It is quite shocking to me to find that not only is there no understanding
>of access standards within the document, (just look at the first 2 images
in
>the booklet!) but that it will take us back years, in promoting the idea
>that access is about no more than "thinking carefully" about access. It
>completely ignores the key issues that ought to be integrated or "infused"
>into the document in each design element.
>
>I am currently going through the document in some detail to explain the
>omissions and errors and the complete lack of commitment to the social
model
>of disability and if anyone would like to add any comments, that would be
>very helpful.
>
>I will post a copy of my comments to the list as soon as I have finished
it.
>
>I am sure (and hope) this will provoke some discussion but hope you will
>forgive me if I don't participate fully in all the discussions as I am
still
>a bit tired from drug use (legal of course!), surgery and other things.
>
>All the best to everyone and am still reading all the messages.
>
>PS. good to see you're keeping the flag flying Vin!
>
>Flick
>
>
>At 08:14 15/06/2006, you wrote:
> >Hi all
> >
> >CABE have launched "Design and access statements: how to write, read
> >and use them"
> >http://www.cabe.org.uk/default.aspx?contentitemid=1334
> >
> >This short guide shows how to write and read design and access
statements.
> >It accompanies the government Guidance Circular 01/06 on changes to the
> >development control system
> >http://www.communities.gov.uk/index.asp?id=1500620
> >The CABE guide provides practical advice on getting the best from
> >statements to help deliver well-designed, inclusive places.
> >
> >You may be also interested to read the DCLG's report "Design Coding in
> >Practice: An Evaluation"
> >http://www.communities.gov.uk/index.asp?id=1500095
> >
> >Marcus Ormerod MRICS NRAC Access Consultant SURFACE Inclusive Design
> >Research Centre School of Construction and Property Management Research
> >Institute of the Built and Human Environment The University of Salford
> >4th Floor Maxwell Building Salford, UK
> >M5 4WT
> >Tel +44 (0)161 295 5405
> >Fax +44 (0)161 295 5011
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