Thanks Clive.
John.
John Gregory
Access Officer
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Sent: 09 June 2006 09:03
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That's how it worked on a couple of new build schemes for warehouse type
units with first floor 'space' I recently prepared access statements for.
Clive
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Hi Clive,
Yes, building Control are involved in this development. So, if I understand
what you are saying, is that the provision for future installation of a lift
would be a natural inclusion in the design and build and that this would
then be referred to in an Access Statement, thereby complying with B Regs
and DDA?
Cheers.
John.
John Gregory
Access Officer
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Sent: 09 June 2006 08:37
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Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] Tenant Landlord Responsibilities Under DDA
I presume this 'development' is such as to require Building Regulations
consent. If so my recent experience is that Building Control officers (or
their private sector equivalents) require the future provision to be
considered and allowed for in space planning terms even though the fit-out
of the building might be by the future purchaser - who would then be
responsible for putting in the lift. This all had to be included in the
Access Statement which was also included in the sales documentation by the
solicitors.
Clive Sayer
Boxall Sayer Construction Consultancy
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John Gregory
Sent: 08 June 2006 16:13
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Subject: Tenant Landlord Responsibilities Under DDA
Importance: High
Hi All,
Apologies for hogging the list at the moment, but I have several issues I
could do with some help on.
Are there any experts in Tenant Landlord issues out there?
Our building Surveyor has approached me regarding a speculative development
within our area. The development is refurbishing two large buildings and
erecting a new building which will contain multiple units including working
floor space on the ground floor and small office units on the first floor.
Eventually these will be leased to small companies. This is OK as it
stands, but an issue has arisen regarding the accessibility (mainly in the
future) of the office spaces. To expand further on the development:
There are 8 units within each of the three buildings which are independent
entities accessed by their own door into an area which includes an
accessible WC, a resst room and a staircase leading up to the office
accommodation (approximately 25m square). The staircase is fine and accords
with AD M in terms of width and handrails etc. The issue we have is for
future access of, for example, an employee who may become disabled and
require lift access.
The developer says that he does not have any intention or responsibility to
provide this future access and it will be up to the tenant to provide this.
The provision of a future lift may well be up to the tenant in the case of
one of their employees requiring lift access, but as the development stands,
they would not be able to provide it as the staircase would be the
evacuation route and there are no provisions built-in to the design to
accommodate future adaptations i.e. a platform lift or other such device.
My question is therefore, does the landlord have a responsibility to
incorporate in the design the ability to install a lift to the office
accommodation if required in the future? It is something which morally he
should do, but is there anything which I can use to require him to do this?
I am not asking him to install lifts, merely to provide the ability to
install one at a later date without having to resort to major structural
changes. DDA changes 2005?
Hope someone can shed some light on this.
Regards.
John Gregory
Access Officer
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