Whoaa everybody....that is not what I meant...please do not get hung up on a
word!! Many of my peers will tell you that I am extremely supportive of
those nurses working in OH who are without the NMC required bits of paper
that would place them on the 3rd part of the register.
It is the NMC that is at fault here.... if looked at logically any employer
will look for the lowest overhead cost they can get away with, and if the
NMC allows those of you who are working in OH without being on the necessary
part of the register to use acronyms that to an employer seem no different
to those used by those practitioners that have taken a formal training in
OH, then we are back to Greta's argument regarding legal standing as a
qualified practitioner if something goes wrong.
We (as a profession) have a professional duty to ensure that we deliver
healthcare (OH) to a minimum standard. Those of you that have taken me to
task are obviously competent and conscientious, however, at the other end of
the scale are nurses working in OH that have really not got a clue what it
is all about (and believe me I have met quite a few) and are making some
very 'iffy' judgments and decisions, placing themselves, their employers and
the employees at risk.
The world today is (sadly) about litigation, and although there are many
nurses out there in OH without a formal OH qualification (or who are not on
Part3 of the register), and who are doing sterling work to a very high
standard. These same nurses may also find that they have a very rough ride
to prove that they were qualified to have made a particular decision should
they have to justify that decision at a tribunal or in a court of law.
Without the necessary and required training as set out by the NMC, and an
appropriate registration structure how can anyone legally prove that they
have met that standard?
Bob
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From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Porter Suzanne - Occ Health
Sent: 28 September 2006 10:21
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] NMC
Bob
Your comments "to appear to all intents and purposes as a suitably
registered and qualified OH practitioner", and "devalues those of us who
have taken the time to be registered", could be perceived to be suggesting
that anyone working as an OH practitioner without the benefit of being
registered on Part 3 as incompetent.
May I remind you that many people are very well qualified, extremely
experienced and well thought of in the their field but are not on Part 3.
Many of us too have taken a great deal of time to study for degrees etc and
should not be regarded as second rate OH specialists by our own colleagues.
Su
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From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
Behalf Of Robert Dunn
Sent: 28 September 2006 10:05
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] NMC
Where is the professionalism in this approach, and where is the protection
for the public that Greta stated is the reason for the NMC's existence?
This approach allows any nurse who is not on the 3rd part to appear to all
intents and purposes as a suitably registered, and qualified, OH
practitioner as employers are not aware of the finer distinctions of the NMC
register. As such it devalues those of us who have taken the time to be
registered, as we now find that we all could have taken this SPOH approach
and not have had to fork out hard earned cash for the privilege of being on
the 3rd part...... It really is a mess and the whole process needs to be
simplified and clarified for the safety of employees, employers and nurses
alike, not be allowed to degenerate into a politically correct,
bureaucratic nightmare full of useless and irrelevant red-tape.
Regards, Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Lynne Gilliland
Sent: 28 September 2006 09:46
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] NMC
Thank you all, for your thoughts and advice.I have spoken to the NMC once
again.
They have reassured me that you can legally practice and use the title of
SPOH.without being on the 3rd part of the register.However to gain entry I
will have to submit a portfolio.When I quoted part B of the act (thank you
Greta)he asked me to hold while he spoke to his manager.His answer was yes
,you are ok to practice and use the title but to phone Liz Palstow for
further advice ,which I have been trying to do all week without any luck..
Once again many thanks.
Lynne Gilliland
Occupational Health Advisor
ext 4620
Working together towards a Healthier Business
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