really useful to press this public health analogy - though also  public 
health too has had a very individualistic approach eg pull yourselves 
together and stop smoking/ eating so badly/ being such a loser etc etc 
mentality .

Also, my own experience and that of clients is that individual 
interventions that come from an awareness/ formulation that takes into 
account the social/ public/ cultural as well as bodily/material realms can 
be fabulously liberating and empowering... that it's the ideas and intent 
underpinning the approach that matter so much whether the approach is 
individual or collective/ social

I feel the need to have frameworks that do not split between the individual 
and the context but instead help us knit / weave ourselves  creatively into 
into  new fabrics...??....

Annie

--On 13 December 2005 16:24 +0000 David Fryer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> The point, for me, is not that individual / interpersonal intervention
> is without potential value in appropriate circumstances (I am willing to
> believe that even CBT might be appropriate and helpful in occasional
> case) but to question whether it is community psychological and to urge
> search for more 'upstream', non-individual, preventive interventions.
>
> In some ways, I find it useful to think of the differences between
> clinical medicine and public health medicine as a way of clarifying some
> differences between clinical psychology (with its default towards
> individual level treatment and intervention) and community psychology
> (with its default to social level prevention and intervention). In some
> places community psychology is referred to as 'public health
> psychology'.
>
> Both clinical medicine and public health medicine are relevant to (some)
> diseases. Often clinical medicine has techniques to treat people who
> have caught diseases and public health  medicine has techniques to
> prevent disease or to interrupt disease epidemics etc.
>
> In psychology we have in clinical psychology a psychological equivalent
> to clinical medicine but almost no psychological equivalent to public
> health medicine apart from critical community psychology (CCP) which I
> regard as being potentially the psychological equivalent of public
> health medicine (and more as CCP is not restricted just to health).
> Critical health psychology also has potential here. However I don't
> think one will develop a CCP by trying to use individual level concepts
> and techniques at a social level. At least I think that is the last
> resort.
>
> If I have a heart attack this evening, I will be grateful if a surgeon
> prolongs my life through surgery but I would not consider open heart
> surgery a viable method of preventing heart disease and instead of
> training a lot of surgeons I would prefer to tackle the social causes of
> heart disease: relative poverty, cold stress, organisational stressors
> etc.
>
> Likewise, I have personally found an extended period of person centred
> counselling a valuable experience, have been mentored and have found
> support invaluable but I would not consider counselling, mentoring or
> support provision as viable methods of preventing distress and instead
> of training a lot of counsellors, mentors and support-givers I would
> prefer to tackle the social causes of distress.
>
> Another way of putting it, is that I am trying to build a thoroughly
> community psychological way of understanding and intervening and to see
> what it is possible to achieve without resorting to individual level
> approaches. Just as public health medicine would not have developed to
> the point where it is the most effective medical approach if it had
> defaulted all the time to clinical techniques on a grand scale, so I
> think community psychology will not develop to the point where it is the
> most effective way of tackling psychological distress if it constantly
> defaults to individual clinical psychology techniques and concepts.
>
> So I want to see how far I can get without the concept of support by
> searching for ways to tackle the factors which make support necessary .
> . . . redesigning jobs (substitute whatever you like for 'jobs') to make
> them less stressful is more efficient than providing support to everyone
> suffering from job stress?
>
> As for 'the transformational model' and 'the dual processes of
> socialisation and reproduction', I agree that we need to keep alive an
> appreciation of agency as well as structure and avoid sociologism as
> well as psychologism but notions of mentoring, befriending and support
> seem to me less useful than notions of discourses, narratives and even
> social representations with their simultaneously sociostructural and
> agentic natures . . .
>
> As for pragmatism, I admit that supporting persons enduring the toxic
> circumstances of trying to create thoroughly community psychological
> ways of thinking and working, might be vital in the same way as giving a
> public health  scientist open heart surgery whilst they are trying to
> develop a public health science way of preventing heart disease but that
> does not mean that open heart surgery is a public health science
> intervention in relation to heart disease.
>
> David
>
> David Fryer
> Community Psychology Group
> University of Stirling
> FK9 4LA
> Scotland
> +44 (0) 1786 467650 (tel)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mark Burton
> Sent: 11 December 2005 4:21 pm
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] (not) Escaping the Critique
>
>
> One way to think about this is in terms of Bhaskar's distinction between
> three models of the individual-society realtionship:
>
> 1)  methodological individualism, which
> ".......... asserts that facts about society are to be explained solely
> in
> terms of facts about individuals   "
> (Bhaskar, 1979, pp 111-112).
> - in psychology this is the very 'psychologised', atomistic model of
> people in society that we are trying to get away from.
>   The rejection of methodological individualism does not, however, imply
> its inverse -
> 2) methodological collectivism - which would explain individuals solely
> in terms of the social system. Instead, Bhaskar (1979, 1989)iargues for
> the transformational model : [People] do not create society.  For it
> always pre-exists them.  Rather it is an ensemble of structures,
> practices and conventions that individuals reproduce or transform, but
> which would not exist unless they did so.
> Society does not exist independently of conscious human activity (the
> error of reification).  But it is not the product of the latter (the
> error of voluntarism). Bhaskar (1979, p.120) It is important to note
> that the transformkational model is not the untheorised 'interactionist'
> position taken by much of psychology, but it goes further by identifying
> two distinct processes - those of socialisation (of individuals through
> their participation in society) and reproduction (of society through
> individual and collective actions).
>
> This is perhaps a long winded way of suggesting that we shoudln't throw
> out the importance of individual / interpersonal strategies and
> processes in our search for anti-individualist ways of working.  These
> have an important role in the dual processes of socialisation and
> reproduction (we might add 'bootstrapping') of and for an alternative,
> counterhegemonic community/critical/really social/psychological
> practice.
>
>
>> To push the point a little further . .. if the notion and practice of
>> mentoring is problematic from a community psychological point of view,
>
>> what about the notion and practice of befriending, and the notion and
>> practice of support . . . are they not also, fundamentally, versions
>> of intervention through individual / interpersonal change which
>> psychologise and depoliticise oppressive power and contribute to the
>> recreation and maintenance of external hierarchies of power and
>> powerless?
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> David Fryer
>> Community Psychology Group
>> University of Stirling
>> FK9 4LA
>> Scotland
>> +44 (0) 1786 467650 (tel)
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dawn
>> Darlaston-Jones
>> Sent: 10 December 2005 1:34 pm
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] (not) Escaping the Critique
>>
>>
>> Dear Colleagues
>> David's reply aptly highlights the very difficulties experienced (in
>> my
>> view) within community psychology - while trying to work in a
>> different
>> (empowering/collegial/collaborative) manner we do in fact (re)position
>> ourselves within some form of hieracrhy and therfore reproduce the
>> oppression that exists in the very structures we are seeking to
> change.
>> Mentoring in any setting or context is particularly problematic for
>> exactly these reasons even though I understand exactly where Diane's
>> comment was coming from and what she had in mind ( we have shared many
>> conversations on this topic especially in relation to supporting the
>> students we interact with daily).
>>
>> the purpose (again in my view) of this list and others like it is to
>> create a space whereby all voices and views are equally validated and
>> encouraged - the difficulty is in providing this - if the 'names'
>> encourage input from the 'novices' this again reproduces the hierachy,
>
>> if the names don't encourage input from the novices it can be
>> interpreted as exclusion - this is the paradox of CP Dawn (on holiday
>> in beautiful sunny New York)
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>>
>> Dr. Dawn Darlaston-Jones
>> Lecturer
>> School of Behavioural Science
>> University of Notre Dame
>> 19 Mouat Street
>> FREMANTLE
>> WA 6160
>> +61 8 9433 0567
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Fryer <[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:07 am
>> Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] (not) Escaping the Critique
>>
>>> To pick up the theme of how we can collectively organise things so
>>> that debate on the list can occur without some on the list being
>>> excluded, depowered and disabled and external hierarchies of power
>>> and powerless recreated and maintained in our list 'community'  . . .
>>>
>>> There has there been just one serious suggestion so far, mentoring, I
>
>>> think,  unless I have missed something, in which case apologies for
>>> that? That suggestion was mentoring.
>>>
>>> But doesn't mentoring have the problem, for those trying to develop
>>> community psychology, of being fundamentally a version of
>>> intervention through individual / interpersonal cognitive change?
>>>
>>> And hasn't the way mentoring been presented, so far on the list,
>>> assumed the reasons for some being silent on the list are lack of
>>> experience and lack of confidence (and also perhaps 'feelings of
>>> exclusion' in so far as that is considered a cause as well as a
>>> consequence?) i.e. a victim blaming way?
>>>
>>> And isn't the mentoring intervention being recommended on the grounds
>
>>> of being a relationship in which a person positioned higher in a
>>> relevant hierarchy 'checks' the work of a person lower in the
>>> hierarchy?
>>>
>>> But isn't that to recommend recreating and maintaining external
>>> hierarchies of power and powerless in our list 'community' rather
>>> than challenging them and ultimately isn't it a 'colleaguial' family
>>> member of CBT of which, elsewhere on this list, we have been quite
>>> properly critical (in connection with Layard)? In considering
>>> adopting mentoring, aren't we thereby once more considering adopting
>>> another way of psychologising and depoliticising oppressive power?
>>>
>>> Diane noted that she has become aware through reflecting upon
>>> discussion on the list  "the rules implicit in claiming a voice".
>>> Isn't mentoring a way of living with the rules? Are we able to
>>> surface and name the rules more explicitly? Are we able to change the
>
>>> rules? If we cannot change the rules of oppression domination and
>>> silencing on our own list, what are the implications for our
>>> effectiveness in challenging oppression outside the list?
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List on behalf of Diane
>>> Costello
>>> Sent: Fri 09/12/2005 01:54
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Escaping the Critique
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Annie
>>>
>>> Thanks for your thoughts and your generosity in sharing of your
>>> identity to the list - for possible partnering and mentoring.  I will
>
>>> certainly take this on board - and perhaps a memorandum of
>>> understanding can be developedto ensure it is not a burden.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Diane
>>> ------------
>>>
>>> Diane Costello
>>> Lecturer
>>> School of Behavioural Science
>>> College of Arts
>>> The University of Notre Dame Australia
>>> 19 Mouat Street (PO Box 1225)
>>> Fremantle, Western Australia 6959
>>> Tel: +61 8 9433 0867
>>> Fax: +61 8 9433 0210
>>> Email: [log in to unmask]
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Annie Mitchell
>>> Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 6:45 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Escaping the Critique
>>>
>>> Hi Diane,
>>>
>>> Mutual mentoring/ induction is a nice  idea. Though I'd want it not
>>> to simply be a process whereby  the "clever experts" induct the
>>> newcomers.  We all have differing expertises and identities we bring
>>> to our exchanges and
>>> it would be good to share those around, value them and encourage one
>>> another to make inputs from our differing expertises..For example
> your
>>> experience of the barriers you have overcome should be just as
>>> valuable to
>>> this list as others' experiences of grappling with philosophical
>>> issues.
>>> I believe we need to bring our differing perspectives  together in
>>> as equal
>>> way as we can   - to make sense and take action.
>>>
>>> I'm sure some sort of mentoring in any case goes on behind the scenes
>
>>> of this list - for example as was revealed through David F's
>>> inadvertent posting of background communication; my comments about
>>> the linked conversations we had at the southwest network meetings,
>>> individual emailsthat go back and forth between colleagues who have
>>> relationships outside of this list etc.  But the value of a mentor
>>> approach could be that we make
>>> connections across our usual sub-groups.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I'd be up for a bit of partnering / mentoring someone whose
>>> experiences were complementary to mine: so here are some of my
>>> identities.I'm white, female, middle aged, long-term single parent
>>> but
>>
>>> now living in a shared family situation, from a north england
>>> comprehensive school background, clinical psychologist working at
>>> present in psychology department  in an old style university and also
>
>>> in a general hospital offering clinical/community service, with an
>>> interest in participatory research. I've occasionally used mental
>>> health and complementary healthservices to support me in managing my
>>> distress. And I'd like to do more about ecological issues. And i like
>
>>> singing and taking part in drama.
>>>
>>> BUT I'm aware that this list has recently taken up more of my/ our
>>> time than it usually does - as it has been so fascinating. We'd  have
>
>>> to be realistic about how much time we could devote to this.
>>>
>>>
>>> Annie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --On 08 December 2005 10:54 +0800 Diane Costello
>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thank you David for clarifying the cultural gap I was
>>> experiencing.  As a
>>> > relative novice to ontological discourse and having overcome the
>>> barriers> posed by poverty, single parenting, ethnic minority
>>> status, sexism,
>>> > disability [just to name a few] -- these discussions have awaken
>>> me to
>>> > the rules implicit in claiming a voice.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I have been advantaged by these discussions and while I feel
>>> overwhelmed> and perhaps a little intimidated it has been an
>>> intoxicating experience.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > May I be bold enough to suggest as an initiation process -
>>> whereby those
>>> > who want an easier transition to the field of CP- be assigned a
>>> mentor on
>>> > the list to encourage greater contributions from those who may feel
>
>>> > excluded for whatever reason.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Sincere cheers
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Diane
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ------------------------
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Diane Costello Assoc MAPS
>>> >
>>> > Lecturer
>>> >
>>> > School of Behavioural Science
>>> >
>>> > College of Arts & Sciences
>>> >
>>> > The University of Notre Dame Australia
>>> >
>>> > 19 Mouat Street (PO Box 1225)
>>> >
>>> > Fremantle, Western Australia 6959
>>> >
>>> > Tel: +61 8 9433 0867
>>> >
>>> > Fax: +61 8 9433 0210
>>> >
>>> > Email: [log in to unmask]
>>> >
>>> > Internet: www.nd.edu.au
>>> >
>>> > CRICOS code: 01032F
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > __________________________________________________
>>> >
>>> > From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List
>>> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Fryer
>>> > Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 8:33 AM
>>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>>> > Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Escaping the Critique
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Dear All,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Here are a few personal reflections on recent interesting
>>> material posted
>>> > to the list.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I have found that Paul and Mike importantly use humour to draw my
>>> > attention back to reflection what I want of the list in relation to
>
>>> > community psychology (COMMUNITYPSYCHUK - The discussion list for
>>> > community psychology in the UK)?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I do want a forum in which we can read and write about and debate
>>> > critical community psychology (CCP for short) at a sophisticated
>>> level> but that is not enough for me - I also want a forum in
>>> which CCP is
>>> > practiced, that in which our actions are in line with the values
>>> > and
>>
>>> > assumptions of CCP.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > For me it is central to CCP that it is committed to challenging and
>
>>> > contesting excluding, depowering and disabling practices and
>>> unjust and
>>> > damaging hierarchies. It is also central to CCP that it is
>>> committed to
>>> > challenging and contesting individualism and psychologism. I am
>>> not, and
>>> > do not want to be interpreted as, imputing disreputable
>>> intentions or
>>> > motives to individual list members in offering critical
>>> refection on what
>>> > it seems to me to be happening in our list discussion. However
>>> my concern
>>> > is that we, collectively, are reproducing and maintaining within
>>> the list
>>> > oppressive power relations outside the list. That is not
>>> surprising of
>>> > course. When we participate in the list, those of us who 'enjoy'
>>> them> cannot individually cast off the privileges and powers that
>>> come with
>>> > being male in a sexist society, affluent in a materially grossly
>>> unequal> society, dominant ethnic group members in a racist society,
>>> > disproportionately enabled in a disablist society, educationally
>>> > successful in a meritocratic society etc. Nevertheless, whatever
>>> the good
>>> > intentions and motives and difficulty of doing otherwise, I fear
>>> that our
>>> > discussion (including my own inputs) sometimes excludes,
>>> depowers and
>>> > disables others on the list and recreates external socially
>>> structured> hierarchies of power and powerless in the list.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On the other hand I think that some of the issues we need to
>>> address to
>>> > become effective require concepts which ignore or redraw
>>> conceptual and
>>> > ideological boundaries so I am also grateful for inputs by
>>> Grant, Mark
>>> > and others. Difficulties in understanding, in my view, are
>>> caused not
>>> > only by the nature of what one is trying to understand but also
>>> by what
>>> > one brings with one with which to do the understanding.
>>> Immersion in
>>> > positivist realist (per)versions of science militates against
>>> coming to
>>> > understand other notions of what counts as knowledge and other
>>> > assumptions about 'what there is'? I think that those believing in
>>> > 'modernism' confronted with post-modernism are in some ways in a
>>> > comparable position to those who believed the earth was flat
>>> confronted> with those who argued the world was round(ish). Our
>>> difficulties in
>>> > understanding radical ideas are to some extent because we have been
>
>>> > educated not to be able to do so. Our educational practices create
>>> > ideological illiteracy?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > So I do think we also need challenges to and support in
>>> discussion about
>>> > complex for-us, for-now-inaccessible issues using unfamiliar
>>> terms and
>>> > constructions. A challenge to us all on this community
>>> psychology list,
>>> > it seems to me, is how to do this without excluding, depowering and
>
>>> > disabling others on the list and recreating and maintaining
>>> > external
>>
>>> > hierarchies of power and powerless in our list 'community'. Any
>>> ideas> how?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > David
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > __________________________________________________
>>> >
>>> > From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List on behalf of
>>> Michael> ridley-Dash
>>> > Sent: Wed 07/12/2005 20:45
>>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>>> > Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Escaping the Critique
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Coming from the Frankfurter school of thought I take Bockwurst's
>>> 'The> adapted transdimensional exploration of the inner discoursals
>>> cavities'
>>> > as the really seminal work. In it he argues that the 'Sausage-
>>> world' or
>>> > as he coins it 'the integral meat-encompassed reality of being'
>>> is being
>>> > infiltrated by the stodgy maize of imperial capitalism. I find
>>> this work
>>> > to be best enjoyed whilst studying fluctuations in the housing
>>> market,> perhaps accompanyed by the sound of the late-great opulent
>>> marxist John
>>> > Lennon's 'Imagine' played on a Kazoo.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > __________________________________________________
>>> >
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Annie Mitchell
Lecturer in Psychology,
Clinical Director, Doctorate in Clinical and Community Psychology,

School of Psychology,
Washington Singer Building,
University of Exeter,
Exeter,
EX4 4QG

Phone 01392 264621 or
Liz Mears, Programme Administrator 01392 403184

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