You can read a history at
http://www.compsy.org.uk/Community_Psychology_in_Britain_History_version%202_MB,CK.pdf
This is a chapter by Stephanie Boyle, Carl Harris, Carolyn Kagan and
myself - written for the forthcoming book editied by S Reich, M Reimer, I
prilleltenskky and M Montero on international community psy. It is of
course one of a number of possible histories, but it was based on
interviews and contributions / correspondence with a variety of people in
the field, many of whom are on the list. We have also tried to analyse
the relative lack of CP development in UK in a paper cited within the
book, and also avaialble on the www.compsy.org.uk site.
Mark
Mark Burton
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I have been reading with great interest the postings concerning the
> liberated clinical psychology / community psychology debate, and the
> explicit addressing of the notion of criticality. These discussions are
> the reason that I subscribed to the CPUK list. Thanks to all for the
> continuing richness of the food for thought.
>
>
>
> I was sorry not to have been at the recent conference and I hope that I
> will be able to come along to the next one! Yarmouth sounds good to me.
> Sliding scales of fees sounds very useful and facillitative.
>
>
>
> It feels to me that this is a particularly challenging period for
> 'psychology', and (perhaps naively?) I think that there is scope to
> counter some of the harm that is often done in the name of helping, as I
> sense a growing awareness of the actual roots and influences inherit in
> instituionalised psychology ( health or university) settings.
>
>
>
> I would be particularly keen to find out more about the history of the
> CPUK movement. Has anyone documented the origins, the ups and downs, the
> successess and perhaps failures of our UK movement. Could anyone point
> me in the right direction for such information?
>
>
>
> Regards, Matt.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Fryer
> Sent: 30 November 2005 21:42
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] how many of the total number of organisers
> have been clinical psychologists?
>
>
>
> Here are some UK CP conferences I recall . . . ish:
>
>
>
> Birmingham (clinical: Penny etc )
>
> Exeter (clinical: Annie etc)
>
> Glasgow (community: Mark Wilson)
>
> London (clinical: ?)
>
> Manchester (community: Carolyn K etc)
>
> Newark (clinical: Steve Melluish etc)
>
> Newcastle (clinical: Jan etc)
>
> Stirling (community: David F. and Steve McKenna etc)
>
>
>
> May be more?
>
> Maybe others can fill in the gaps?
>
>
>
>
>
> David
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List on behalf of Penny
> Priest
> Sent: Wed 30/11/2005 20:59
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] On the subject of conferences...
>
> I wonder, out of the 5 (?) UK Critical and Community Psychology
> conferences,
> how many of the total number of organisers have been clinical
> psychologists?
> I was involved organising the 3rd conference in Birmingham which was
> organised, with the exception of one counselling psychologist, by
> clinical
> psychologists, all belonging to the West Mids Critical and Community
> Psychology Interest Group.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul@home" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 7:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] On the subject of conferences...
>
>
>> My extended response to some recent emails:
>>
>> Nice to see you contributing to the discussion David S! Sorry, but I
> use
>> the
>> term 'being critical' rather than 'problematizing' and I see
> criticality
>> as
>> a virtue where I work (university), particularly as this year some of
> our
>> psychology students have to take a mandatory course on 'learning and
>> employability' (New Labour has not only landed in academia, it taking
> up
>> roots!!). It is increasingly difficult to be critical in higher
> education,
>> some of us our facing threats, bullying and abuse for being critical.
> For
>> me
>> it would be a shame for the com psy network to be a place where we
> were
>> discouraged from being critcal also.
>>
>> I really admire Tony Benn but I didn't vote labour last time and won't
>> next.
>> Tony Benn has minimal if any influence over the Labour Party. If I had
>> ever
>> joined the Labour Party, I am sure that I would have left under Tony
>> Blair's
>> stewardship irrespective of Tony Benn's decision to stay on.
>>
>> I have met and communicated with students on clinical psychology
> training
>> programmes who are either being crushed by the dominant clinical
> training
>> system which gives them little or no room to think community
>> psychologically
>> on their courses (results in any community psychology they receive
> being
>> less a life line but more the glare of the spotlight from the prison
>> guards
>> as they attempt their escape from mainstream clinical practice) to
> those
>> students who are being crushed directly by their community psychology
>> clinical supervisors. I don't just think this is a problem on the
> clinical
>> psy training progs alone. For those of us who teach psychology, we
> often
>> forget the brutalising system that we are a part of and that much of
> what
>> we
>> do does the work of the system, as much as we think it doesn't. You
> cannot
>> be a community educationalist in a university setting. I could
> actually
>> name
>> the names of the community psychologists in the education system who
> are
>> crushing psychology students in this way. It is deeply unprofessional
> of
>> me
>> to do so, but what the heck. I will be the first (public) whistle
> blower.
>> The first one I want to name and shame is Paul Duckett at Manchester
>> Metropolitan University.
>>
>> Back to clinical psychology. Clinical Psychology isn't just an
> arbitrary
>> label, it is a powerful social signifier that conveys status, power
> and
>> authority and conveys privileges. For those of you who are clinical
>> psychologists, you may not recognise it, but a fish may not be aware
> of
>> the
>> water in which it swims - take it out of the water, and it soon will!
> For
>> me, David F's comments were like grabbing the tales of clinical
>> psychologists and threatening to take them out the goldfish bowl. The
>> reaction from the clinical psychologists among us was, I am sad to
> say,
>> fairly predictable.
>>
>> Clinical psychology has been one of the most prized identities within
> the
>> discipline of psychology and every year I watch psychology students
> get
>> brutalised in the awful scramble to secure a place on a clinical
> training
>> course (only one or two are ever successful) and every year I see
> doctoral
>> students brutalised as they scratch and claw in their attempts to keep
> on
>> their clinical training place. Let's not forget that. And let's not
> forget
>> that to keep a hold on the title of 'clinical psychologist' is much
> more
>> than an arbitrary decision. It is a bit like the use of the title
> "Docor"
>> more broadly. When I use the title "Dr" It affords me many privileges
> (a
>> nice table in the restuarant, flight upgrades, unusual levels of
> patience
>> and courtesy from my bank manager and so on and so forth - that is
> until
>> they discover I am not a 'real' doctor). Notice, I still need to let
> you
>> know that I am a doctor, so that I retain the power identify even when
> I
>> seem to be giving it up: ie.
>>
>> P: 'Please don't call me doctor, I prefer you just call me paul
>> CPUK: 'Wot? I never knew you were a doctor, wow!'
>> Paul: 'Yes, well, I don't really like to talk about it ... you know
> ...
>> being a doctor and everything .... I hardly ever like to mention that
> I am
>> a
>> doctor ..... I get so embarrassed when the waiter shouts out "Hey,
> Doctor
>> Duckett, your table is ready". Gosh, I get sooooo embarrassed. Why
> can't
>> we
>> just all be equals? I just hate those social hierachies. So does my
> friend
>> Dr Fryer, by the way.'
>>
>> For some, particularly those who have survived the psychiatric system,
>> clinical psychology is also a signify of the most appauling oppression
> and
>> cruelty. Sure, you can be a community psychologist who works in
> clinical
>> psychology. Same as you can be a vegetarian who happens to work in an
>> abattoir. That is fine. In both instances you may carry a sick bag
> with
>> you
>> to work as you will probably want to vomit at most things you see
>> happening
>> around you and some of the things you are asked to do yourself. Also,
>> don't
>> be surprised if when I invite you to one of my vegetarian candle lit
>> suppers, I politely ask you not to talk in detail about what you do
> for a
>> living as it might put some of my other dinner guests off their food.
>> Note,
>> I also feel the same could be said of survivors of the education
> system
>> and
>> working as a community psychologist in academia.
>>
>> In relation to Mark B's comments, The Rotary Club is a voluntary
>> organisation. That doesn't mean that we should refrain from being
> critical
>> as to their activities from time to time. The Hitler Youth began as a
>> voluntary organisation. I could give many more examples, but I won't.
> I
>> think I have made my point. Philanthropy is no protection from
> critical
>> scrutiny. The European Community Psychology Network would dive for
> cover
>> from critical scrutiny using the same rationale of philanthropy. If
>> anything, we should focus our critical gaze more attentively as the
> vested
>> interests of the philanthropists may be more difficult to discern if
> we
>> cannot see the immediate monetary gain they are securing. This is not
> a
>> personal attack on colleagues from Great Yarmouth or those CPUK
> members
>> who
>> are clinical and proud. These are my critical commentaries on the
>> arguments
>> and discourses circulating in recent CPUK emails.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> paul
>>
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