Very low then!

We have even lower for oral and inhalation uptake and using a sandy soil 
(2% SOM).

Adam


Kevin Privett wrote:

>Since we are being open and honest, and it is a beta version, I will
>kick off with my result for BaP.
>
>I have chosen to use oral to oral, dermal to oral, inhal to inhal and
>integrated assessment, plus dust enrichment factors.
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>My result is 0.251 mg/kg.  
>
>Regards,
>Kevin Privett.
> 
>Dr Kevin Privett
>Principal Geo-Environmental Consultant
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Contaminated Land Management Discussion List
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of adamc
>czarnecki
>Sent: 07 November 2005 17:46
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: CLEA UK beta version
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>Has anyone tried running BaP on CLEA UK 2005. Interesting results for a 
>sandy soil.
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>I see another headache coming on!
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>Adam
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>David Fountain wrote:
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>>The way I'm reading it is 'limited support'
>> 
>>But anyway we're the ones supposed to be testing/evaluating 
>>anyway..... why would we need support as well? :-)
>> 
>>On the same topic, has anyone gone through the 'Exercises for CLEA UK'
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>>yet?
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>>Dave Fountain
>>Contaminated Land Officer
>>East Staffordshire Borough Council
>>Tel: 01283 508848
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>>[mailto:[log in to unmask]]*On Behalf Of 
>>*Paul Pearse
>>*Sent:* 04 November 2005 16:54
>>*To:* [log in to unmask]
>>*Subject:* Re: CLEA UK beta version
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>>Well I'm glad the Agency are up to date with software applications. At
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>>least they seem to have upgraded from Windows 3.1 with the original 
>>Excel for Windows - haven't they?
>> 
>>As for it being intuative does that mean we can ask it a question if 
>>we have a problem? Or does "intuative" mean "limited support"?
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>>*Paul Pearse*
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>>*From:* Rebecca Brown
>>*Sent:* Fri 04/11/2005 16:24
>>*To:* [log in to unmask]
>>*Subject:* Re: CLEA UK beta version
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>>I've just come back from the CLEA UK Launch in Reading today where I 
>>learnt a few interesting things about the model.  Unfortunately there 
>>was no opportunity to use it, we were just shown snapshots of certain 
>>screens.
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>>We were told this model is considerably more flexible (thankfully) 
>>than CLEA 2002.  A handbook accompanies the model (which can also be 
>>downloaded) which should guide us through its use, and also contains 
>>information on the science behind it.  The model contains many layers,
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>>you can continue to generate generic numbers, but also it contains 
>>more detailed layers for generating site specific numbers (hoorah!).
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>>It has been developed to run in Excel 97 so if you use a different 
>>version, beware.  I believe the Agency is looking into running CLEA UK
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>>in later versions of Excel but are not able to yet - that is not to 
>>say you cannot use it, just look out for anomalies.  The CLEA help 
>>email address will continue to run, but will only give limited 
>>support.  If you have major problems they will endeavour to solve them
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>>swiftly, if however they are relatively small, they will make a note 
>>of them and then seek to address them in one go when the final version
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>>of the model is issued in 6 months time. Not overly helpful.  Also, 
>>the Agency believe that the model is so intuitive, they do not plan to
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>>organise any training.  Thankfully I'm fairly certain the CIEH (and 
>>possibly other bodies) will step in and do some.
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>>On the subject of whether we should be making decisions using it, the 
>>Agency said to use the data with caution.  The model has been tested 
>>(they were at pains to say it has been well tested), but as it is not 
>>the final version we should scrutinise the data going in and 
>>information coming out (obviously).  They did not say however that it 
>>should not be used.
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>>The Agency is very keen to receive feedback on any aspect of the model
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>>so they can incorporate any suggestions for improvements.
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>>Regard
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>>Becky
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Kevin Privett [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>Sent: 04 November 2005 15:04
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: CLEA UK beta version
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>>My view on the use of CLEA UK for regulatory purposes is that it is
>>likely to be so much better than what we have at present, so should be
>>used.  The current position is a hotch-potch of different models, with
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>>strong reliance on SNIFFER.  If a program has got to the beta stage,
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>>has been tested by quite a few people and the main bugs should be
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>>out.  I equate this as a "probationary period" before the final
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>>and not as a "first draft". 
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>>Regards,
>>Kevin Privett.
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>>Dr Kevin Privett
>>Principal Geo-Environmental Consultant
>> 
>>Hydrock Consultants Ltd
>>Over Court Barns
>>Over Lane
>>Almondsbury
>>Bristol
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>>Sent: 04 November 2005 13:19
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>>Subject: Re: SNIFFER values
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>>Neil and everyone else,
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>>Does this answer indicate that the CLO community is prepared to accept
>>assessments using the beta tested CLEA UK before the final version is
>>released, reportedly in 6 months time?
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>>Interested to hear views on this.
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>>Duncan
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>>Hi all,
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>>a quick question about values obtained by SNIFFER. I have to sign this
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>>report off by the end of the day, it was supposed to all be stright
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>>forward!
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>>I am simply checking through a validation report for a site we are
>>pretty
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>>happy with. However, they derived guideline values for copper and zinc
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>>from SNIFFER - and the values are 129387 mg/kg for copper, and 649566
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>>mg/kg for Zinc!! Surely something went wrong in their calculations
>>there?
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>>Or would the fact that the site is residential without plant uptake
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>>create really high values becuase there is less of an exposure?
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>>Any help gratefully received....
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>>Waverley Borough Council
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