Hi Regina
Please don't worry - there is no intention to republish mailing list emails
on the blog. And you're certainly not off-topic.
As regards your English, you might want to reconsider your anxieties about
that. Both Det and Giselle have asked that we experiment with other
languages on the blog, and Det began that today with this post on non-native
languages
http://writing.typepad.com/digital_life/2005/08/nonnative_langu.html
I'm sorry if my comment upset you. I didn't mean to do that. And please
don't worry about your English, you do a fantastic job.
Warm wishes
sue
> From: arteonline <[log in to unmask]>
>
> Dear Sue,
>
> A little misunderstand: I sent a message to writing and digital life last
> July 22nd, which I finish in this way:
>
> "To conclude I would like to say that for me the interesting to this list is
> to have the two options: the mailing list and the blog ( to which I will
> never contribute because of my English ;-( )."
>
> So that, please, never publish a message of mine on the blog. Whem I publish
> anything in English, out of lists and out of my own site, I always pay
> someone to translate my Portuguese into English.
>
> I have not understood one thing, do you intend to publish all the posts to
> this list on the blog? Could you clarify me? If so, I will not post anymore.
>
> I only was wanting to be polite with Peter who wrote a beautiful message
> answering my yesterday email. By the way I do not think that my two emails
> are off topic, both were about memories and digital life. In any case my
> apologies.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Regina Célia Pinto
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sue Thomas" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 10:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [WDL] Virtual Madeleines, Bergson and surfing
>
>
> I'm interested that this lyrical conversation is happening here and not on
> the blog. Anyone have thoughts on that? I feel quite frustrated by it but I
> suppose it's a question of getting used to two different discussions. I hope
> it starts to overlap. Or perhaps people will repost fragments and summaries?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: arteonline [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>
> Subject: [WDL] Virtual Madeleines, Bergson and surfing
>
> Dear Peter,
>
> At first, thanks for the beautiful , intelligent and poetic comment.
> I decide to bite your virtual madeleine and ...
>
> Perhaps in the future, instead of writing:
> "...and the church and all Combray and its surroundings, all this that takes
>
> form and solidity, city and gardens, left from my cup of tea." (1)
>
> We that are living this experience should write:
>
> ...and the digital life and all Internet and its surroundings, all this
> that takes form and solidity, favorite sites, urls and lists, left from our
> cup of ...
>
> *******************************************
>
> Also your associative web surfing reminds me this Bergson's thought:
>
> "At first we can say that memory is a survival of the old images, these
> images will go to mix themselves constantly to our perception of the present
>
> and also they can replace it. Because they are stored only to become
> useful: every minute they complete the present experience enriching it with
> the acquired experience." (2)
>
> Is not this what happens when one surfes through the Internet links?
>
> *******************************************
>
> Quotations: (Portuguese version - Unfortunatelly I did the translation into
> English)
>
> (1) ...e a igreja e toda Combray e seus arredores, tudo isso que toma forma
> e solidez, saiu, cidade e jardins, da minha taça de chá. / PROUST, Marcel.
> Em busca do tempo perdido, no caminho de Swann.. Porto Alegre, Editora
> Globo, 1981.
>
>
> (2) Digamos inicialmente que a memória é, uma sobrevivência das imagens
> passadas, estas imagens irão misturar-se constantemente à nossa percepção do
>
> presente e poderão inclusive substituí-la. Pois elas só se conservam para
> tornarem-se úteis: a todo instante completam a experiência presente
> enriquecendo-a com a experiência adquirida. / BERGSON, Henri. Matéria e
> memória. São Paulo, Martins Fontes,1990.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Regina Célia Pinto
>
> http://arteonline.arq.br
> http://arteonline.arq.br/library.htm
> http://bigsheep.blogspot.com
>
> New Work:
> http://arteonline.arq.br/eva/
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Ciccariello" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 2:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [WDL] The attic and the topic how will digital life affect
> human memory
>
>
> Regina and all,
>
> I always wonder about the forensics of computer memory. It is said that
> you can never completely erase a hard drive, short of physically
> destroying it, that the police/FBI/CIA can retrieve any information
> that was ever entered, even if the hard drive is reformatted. I wonder
> if one ever really loses physical memory. And what of involuntary
> memory? What about associative web surfing in a manner that transcends
> deliberate recollection/searching, a web search that explodes like a
> flood of involuntary memory from a bite of a virtual petite Madeleine?
> I like the idea of the ATTIC, of memory being stored on old, discarded
> computers. Memory that does not die, but fades, bit by bit, byte by
> byte, or just sits suspended in the ether until someone powers up with
> the old software.
>
> -Peter Ciccariello
>
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