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Re: Fw: NAS International Conference 2005...

From:

Colin Revell <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Colin Revell <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:48:51 +0000

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Russell

Firstly, I do share your grief about Tony Kay, even has you know, me too, 
didn't see 'eye-to eye' with him on various issues, but that didn't take 
away from me his 'humanity' shown towards others, especially those 
individuals, families an carers of those with ASD's.

Can you please relay a message of condolences to his family and NAS on my 
behalf.

I know that many of us within DANDA would like to share our sadness in 
hearing about his sudden untimely death of such a caring and loving man who 
will be sadly missed by everyone, even those like myself, within the 
disabled people's movement who may not agreed with Tony's viewpoints and 
idea's.

To me to be 'humanistic' is to able to separate the 'political from the 
personal', in which Tony did with me on numerous occasions when I met him.

I would like to clarify again to all within DANDA, that the email I sent at 
weekend was not the personal views of DANDA, but that of my own. I can't 
speak for Adrian, but I think he would state that he was expressing his 
personal views too, not DANDA's.

Every-time I seem to say anything this same issue always arises and is taken 
totally out of context about me representing the views of DANDA, in which I 
believe I have clarified to everyone concerned on numerous occasions now. I 
am a member of DANDA and my 'personal views and ideas' may differ from that 
of others on the DANDA Committee and members.

I always express my own ideas and views of that I share with others within 
the UK and global disabled, neurodiverse and survivors movements who may 
have the same viewpoints and ideologies as me around the social model, 
independent living and inclusion, under the auspices of 'nothing about us, 
without us'.

I will make it clear that I personally reject the 'medical model' and other 
models, including the psychiatric model, behavourism model, charity model 
and personal tragedy/pity/deficit model of disability that oppress all 
disabled people, including nd's too.

You have my permission to share this email with others with DANDA Committee, 
NAS and other concerned individuals and organisations.

With Kind and Warm Regards

Yours

Colin Revell


>From: "Russell" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: "Colin Revell" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Fw: NAS International Conference 2005...
>Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:50:37 +0100
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Russell" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:45 PM
>Subject: That bloody Yorkshireman again (Fw: NAS International Conference
>2005...)
>
>
> > I am very unhappy about the e-mail below.
> > As you can see, it has been sent to a variety of e-mail lists.
> > Once again Colin is giving the impression that he is speaking on behalf 
>of
> > DANDA.
> > I attended the NAS Conference and found it to be very positive. There 
>were
> > at least five neurodiverse speakers including Temple Grandin and Larry
> > Arnold.
> > ADHD, dyspraxia and dyslexia were refered to more that once.
> > There were people with AS and other ASD dxs in the audience, some of 
>whom
> > contributed vocally.
> > With the exception of one geneticist, I would not characterise the
>speakers
> > as being "medical model".
> >
> > How can anyone comment upon an event at which they have not been
>present?!!
> > Perhaps Adrian (who attended for only the last couple of hours) would 
>like
> > to comment.
> >
> > May I add that now is not a good time to be annoying the NAS or
>individuals
> > conected with the NAS.
> > Our Chairman, Tony Kay, died on Monday.
> > I am saddened and I shall miss him.
> > We did not agree on many things but I found that he always listened,
> > considered and responded to what I had to say.
> > He was a worthy opponant, a caring father and a good bloke.
> >
> > Russell.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Colin Revell" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>; <[log in to unmask]>; 
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> > Cc: <[log in to unmask]>;
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> > <[log in to unmask]>; <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 12:57 PM
> > Subject: NAS International Conference 2005...
> >
> >
> > > NAS International Conference 2005... See links:-
> > http://www.nas2005.org.uk/
> > > and
> > > http://www.nas.org.uk/nas/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=253&a=6221
> > >
> > > Adrian Whyatt, DANDA Co-Chair and I have decided not to attend this
> > > Conference, because in both of our 'own-words' it's totally 'medically
> > > model' rehetoric and there is no 'neurodiverse' speakers talking about
> > ASD's
> > > from the 'social-model' experiences. 'Shame on you NAS'... This
>Conference
> > > is totally out of tune with the rest of the thinking within the basic
> > human
> > > and civil rights UK and global neurodiverse, disability, and survivors
> > > movements and communities and 'Nothing about Us, without Us'.
> > >
> > > I will send a copy to NAS, through the press office and conference
> > > information email contact of the article by Katleen Seidel,
> > > neurodiverse.com, from over a year ago(22 September 2004) called:-
>Autsim
> > > and Human Rights:-
>http://www.nas.org.uk/nas/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=253&a=6221
> > >
> > > Are these Charities and organsiations is the UK and global world 
>really
> > > 'actively-listening' to our voices and representing 'US' on what we
> > actually
> > > are saying and 'want and need'?
> > >
> > > Have they heard of 'Nothing about Us, without Us'??
> > >
> > > have they heard of DANDA and also neurodiversity.com and 'Madrid
> > > Declaration?
> > >
> > > I hope this message hits home and I can educate them within this 
>email.
> > >
> > > NAS have ignored me in the past up to now, so will I have any effxct 
>in
> > > changing their oppressive behaviour now?
> > >
> > > Yours
> > >
> > > Colin Revell
> > >
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> >

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