Dear All
This debate has moved too fast for me to keep hold of all the points but I
find that I am experiencing a tension (subjective embodied experience -
thankyou David Smail) that tells me that I am about to speak. So here goes.
On the one hand it seems that we have had a series of statements and
related, developing responses. It seems that by doing this talking we are
doing part of the business of supporting the survival of these movements.
On the other hand, I thought I should respond to a specific point in case I
gave people the impression that I was just in it for the waffle.
No, I am not happy that people end up hearing that they may need to move to
find places where community and critical notions survive. But I am glad to
hear that such places exist.
Is there a list of such places, or would it be possible to produce one?
Would such a community resource represent a move forward from the
individualistic and voluntaristic assumptions that we find it hard to avoid
(living as we do in a voluntaristic and individualistic hegemony)?
How do such places develop? I am in one right now. I have to say that
getting to this place required a lot of luck (ie, a fantastic vacancy
happened on my doorstep, thanks, to some extent, to the election of a Labour
government at the end of the 20th century) and some risk/voluntarism (I left
an established position to do a short-term contract, aren't I great?,
although it was better paid than my old job and, as a clin psych, you have a
good chance of another job).
How do we support the development of such places? Encourage people to go
there? Publicise their existence, survival and (something which those of us
with mortgages value) their compatibility with a career?
What do you reckon?
-----Original Message-----
From: David Fryer [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 13 September 2005 17:22
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Comm Psy conference 2005 (depleted energy / creativity)
Dear All
I resonated with Lisa's reference to depleted energy / creativity due to
creativity/critical thinking being squashed by the everyday trials and
strains of working and the subsequent contributions However the replies
about how to keep community ideas alive in the face of all the other
requirements of positions / jobs and every day lives interest me even
more at the moment. To me they seem to default mostly to notions of
persons finding opportunities to receive support in one way or another
(including opportunities for critical reflection) and the realisation
that this may not be practically achievable or that the context we work
in may even force us to collude with oppressing others. It would be
ironic if discussion on a CP list reproduced individualistic,
interpersonal, voluntaristic and quasi-clinical discourses and this was
not critically scrutinised by list members, wouldn't it? As community
psychology list members are we really happy suggesting that the
individual has to seek out a safe interpersonally supportive context in
which to work? Is 'support', with its interpersonal assumptions and
connotations that distress can be reduced by intra psychic change and
communication, a problematic notion for community psychology? Doesn't
the suggestion that the individual's dysfunctional 'choices' as to where
to work, not taking things personally, etc play into voluntarism and
victim blaming? Are there social change solutions to this problem which
we as a network should be collectively enacting?
David
David Fryer
Community Psychology Group
University of Stirling
FK9 4LA
Scotland
+44 (0) 1786 467650 (tel)
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-----Original Message-----
From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Thorne Lisa (Devon
Partnership NHS Trust)
Sent: 09 September 2005 11:31 am
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Comm Psy conference 2005
Hi Paul
I echo your sentiments and would really value some 'stirring'
communications on the email network before the conference. I am
currently trying to conjure up the energy/creativity to respond to
Rebekah's request for people to present at the slot she has arranged for
thinking about the stance we, as community psychologists, might take in
regards to G8, poverty etc - in the midst of my first year
post-qualified working in an adult CMHT where my creativity/critical
thinking is sadly quashed by acclimatising to the everyday trials and
stresses of working in the NHS! Sorry, Rebekah, I still haven't quite
been able to come up with a statement i would be prepared to share, but
i'm working on it! I would love to know how people are managing to keep
their critical/community ideas alive in the face of all the other
requirements of their positions/jobs - and perhaps also within their
every day lives. Thoughts/tips anyone? Looking forward to the
conference
Lisa
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