I have had experience of all of these - from a 1:1 cover for 7 years, to 1:4
with Orthopaedics and then to a cross-department cover.
The first is unsustainable, the second - Orthopaedic consultants do not
practice Emergency Medicine and should not cover anything other than
Orthopaedics - simple governance issue. My experience was just that - they
did not respond to the department.
I found that the Orthopaedic surgeons were very unhappy and got out asap.
We now have a system in Shropshire where the 2 departments are covered by
the consultants in both departments (2 in each) on 1:4 - when we cover our
base department and also cover an Associate Specialist looking after the
other. This has worked well for some time. I resent the implication that we
do no work when covering - perhaps the author would like to come and try it.
We lead the trauma response and can be in for other matters as well. It
certainly is not a cushy number from where I come from with the Shropshire
and Welsh road systems generating business.
Mark P
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adrian Fogarty [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 28 September 2005 09:15
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: A&E On - call Rota
>
> Absolutely not (to your last paragraph). I see consortium cover as a
> classic
> compromise, existing only because you don't have enough specialists in
> your
> own unit. There are some ridiculous examples of this around the country,
> where a consultant covers two, sometimes three, units at nights and
> weekends. The result? The consultant doesn't actually do any work, or does
>
> minimal work, in any of the units; he merely "covers from home" whatever
> that means. I suspect some specialists prefer this system because of its
> perceived "flexibility", which to my mind is just a euphemism for wanting
> a
> cushy rota.
>
> Surely it's about time our specialty provided decent levels of internal
> cover, and by that I mean resident shop-floor cover by day and
> increasingly
> at evenings and part-weekends, with dedicated single-unit cover at night,
> just as most other acute specialties do?
>
> AF
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Coats Tim - Professor of Emergency Medicine"
> <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:02 AM
> Subject: Re: A&E On - call Rota
>
> No experience of cross speciality cover. I don't think that an orthopod is
>
> able to practice emergency medicine (and an orthopod that thinks that they
>
> can just doesn't understand and so should certainly not be allowed to).
>
> I have some good experience of cross Department cover - very dependent on
> Geography (all of the hospitals in the East London A&E Consortium are a
> couple of miles apart).
>
> Even if long distances are involved, it might be better for an ED to have
> more distant cover from an emergency specialist rather than close cover
> from
> someone who is not a specialist in Emergency Medicine. Maybe an agreement
> from the local orthopods / surgeons that they would support the ED by
> coming
> in for major trauma (which they probably could cope with) might assist
> this
> system.
>
> To go one step further. My guess is that on-site late shifts followed by
> consortium on-call overnight (ie. one, or two, A&E consultant shared
> between
> several hospitals) will be a future pattern for emergency service
> provision.
> Closer integration with the pre-hospital care services would enable the
> night shift consortium consultants to focus their time in the right areas.
>
> Do we need to start taking a Regional rather than a Departmental view of
> the
> provision of nightime Emergency Care, to develop a more flexible system?
>
> (Puts on flame proof suit and hits send)
>
> Tim. Coats.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Accident and Emergency Academic List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of MICHAEL DUDLEY
> Sent: 27 September 2005 23:53
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: A&E On - call Rota
>
> Dear All
>
> Does anyone know of A&E Departments that have an on-call consultant cover
> arrangement shared with another specialty, e.g. Orthopaedic Consultants?
>
> I know it is suboptimal, but I am sure that many DGHs like us, have found
> that they would be unable to recruit new A&E Consultants with an on-call
> rota more onerous than 1 in 4.
>
> I would be very interested to hear of/from A&E Departments that run such
> an
> arrangement.
>
> Many thanks
> Mike Dudley
> Consultant in Emergency Medicine
> Airedale General Hospital
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