I forgot to mention in my last email. Thank god someone else out there understands when centuries begin and end.
Unfortunately Chris I think we lost that battle when the so-called Millennium was celebrated in the penultimate year of the last century.
Me - I blame Prince ("the artist formerly known as symbol, formerly known as Prince" - not the excellent project management methodology), computers and the Y2K problem and the fact that August publications such as the Times did a complete U-turn on what they'd said 100 years earlier and jumped on the "tonight we're going to party like it's 1999" band wagon.
5 years on and I'm still one bitter puppy that no-one came to my "end of the millennium bash" on 31st December 2000!
Phil
Phil Carlisle
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National Monuments Record Centre
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From: Issues related to Sites & Monuments Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Wardle
Sent: 23 August 2005 14:24
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Use of Periods
Hi,
There seems to be some double counting here:
-Was Elizabeth I not a Tudor?
-Was not James I (James VI to you guys up north) not a Stuart?
-Were not Georges I-IV (plus William IV) Hanoverian?
-Victorian I'll let ride, but also remember 20th century runs, 1901-2000, and 21st century, 2001-2100.
Chris Wardle
Chris Wardle
City Archaeologist
Urban Design Group
Leicester City Council
Block A
New Walk Centre
Welford Place
Leicester. LE1 6ZR
0116 2527282
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The DSU has recently made some changes to the PERIODS hierarchy used by
the NMRs AMIE system (see below). We are now consulting with system
users here before making changes to records. We would also like to
consult other users of the PERIODS hierarchy especially HERs using our
reference data (e.g. those using HBSMR). If your PERIOD list is brought
into line with that at the NMR then the issues we are consulting NMR
users over will be of equal relevance.
Regards
Martin
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Martin Newman
Datasets Development Manager
AMIE Period Change
Recent changes to AMIE have seen the replacement of the MODERN period
with the two periods 20TH CENTURY and 21ST CENTURY.
Additional regal periods of TUDOR, ELIZABETHAN, STUART, JACOBEAN,
HANOVERIAN, GEORGIAN and VICTORIAN have also been added (or in the case
of VICTORIAN been in existence for some time but not used).
DSU would welcome comments on how periods should be used/are being used
to record POST MEDIEVAL dates.
For instance there are c.173000 records in AMIE which are currently
identified as being POST MEDIEVAL in date. Of those over 36,000 have
min/max dates falling within the VICTORIAN period.
Where a monument is known to have been built after 1837 but before 1901
does it make sense to record this as VICTORIAN?
A similar number of records exist for the GEORGIAN period between 1714
and 1830.
Two questions need answering:
1. Are users happy with using 20th and 21st Century instead of
MODERN?
2. Should POST MEDIEVAL records be updated to VICTORIAN/GEORGIAN
etc. where the phase is a construction/alteration/repair phase?
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