hi all,
how much support do you all get for this kind of effort from the uk foundation/philanthropy world??
ken thompson
pittsburgh
-----Original Message-----
From: The Health Equity Network (HEN) on behalf of Jonathan Mathers
Sent: Thu 7/28/2005 4:24 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: cost of 'Choosing Inclusion' conference 14 Sep, Birmingham
Dear Aldo,
Thanks a lot for the response. I hope the event is a success once again and that you manage to gain some additional financial support for it in the future.
Best wishes,
Jonathan.
-----Original Message-----
From: Aldo Mussi [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 27 July 2005 16:27
To: [log in to unmask]; Jonathan Mathers
Cc: [log in to unmask]; Glenn Macdonald; Mike Filby
Subject: cost of 'Choosing Inclusion' conference 14 Sep, Birmingham
As the organiser, my thanks to Alex / Jonathan for the opportunity to reply about the valid concerns on conference fees.
Here at Health Development in UCE we are not-for-profit, but must cover our costs (including staffing) for any external events such as this. This is explained in the Charging Policy on the conference page of our website below.
As you can see, the standard fee is £155 (earlybirds were able to book for £125), with a reduced fee of £105 for voluntary sector. This is actually a reduction in price from last year, due to the increasing popularity of the event - and we hope to be able to reduce it further in future as numbers increase. Given that our only (albeit gratefully received) grant funding is a modest contribution from the Dept of Health, that's about as much as we can do at present (NB. We use UCE premises to keep costs down - were we to have a commercial venue such as a hotel, our costs would be considerably higher).
If anyone has suggestions for attracting more funding, I would be very grateful to hear about it.
For now, even in a less than ideal situation, we feel it is important to keep the 'health inclusion' debate and support alive for health promotion workers in particular, given the demise of the Health Dev Agency and their own previous annual event.
Past delegates have responded very positively to this conference, so we hope to be able to continue running it each September, while continually seeking to keep the cost down.
I am sorry if anyone feels they are unreasonably excluded, and would welcome any further feedback / comments / queries. In the meantime, I hope colleagues will find a way to join us on the day for what should be another valuable conference.
Best wishes
Aldo
Aldo Mussi (Snr Lecturer in Health Development)
University of Central England
tel. 0121 331 5326 email : [log in to unmask]
UCE's 3rd national Health Development conference
is on Wed 14 Sep 2005, Birmingham.
www.hcc.uce.ac.uk/Schools/healthdev/index.htm
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Scott-Samuel [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 27 July 2005 15:19
To: Jonathan Mathers
Cc: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Birminghman UK Event: 'Choosing Inclusion'
Thank you very much for drawing my attention to this
Jonathan: I am speaking at this conference and as one who is committed to equity, I am very sensitive to the issues you raise. I have on a number of occasions publicly protested at the way that certain specialist conference organisers rip off the public sector by charging outrageous conference fees: appended below is a letter to just such an organisation in Cheshire
('Bearhunt') which invited me to run a workshop at a one-day conference for which they were charging public sector workers £381 inc. VAT, and voluntary sector workers £233 inc. VAT!
In my view, the cost of the Birmingham conference is just about within the bounds of acceptability - but I will copy this letter to the organiser so that he can respond
Best wishes, Alex
(extract from letter to Bearhunt)
Dear *****
Thanks for your letter. As I informed ********* yesterday morning - having seen the conference flyer in Public Health News - I and my team will not be participating in this conference. The reason for this is that we find the conference fees prohibitive and we believe that they will create inequalities in access of the very sort that the conference is supposed to be challenging. The existence of bursaries for community groups is of course irrelevant to the situation of most health and local government public sector workers - who could not possibly obtain study leave expenses on this scale for a one day event. Even if they could, the sum involved would represent an enormous drain on scarce public sector resources
Jonathan Mathers wrote:
> Does anybody else find the fact that a one day conference entitled
> 'Choosing Inclusion' is charging £155 for the privilege of attending
> rather ironic?
>
> Jonathan Mathers.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: The Health Equity Network (HEN)
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Mcdaid,D
> Sent: 27 July 2005 12:54 To:
> [log in to unmask] Subject: Birminghman UK Event:
> 'Choosing Inclusion'
> Dear colleagues:
>
> This is the final announcement of places for the 3rd national Health
> Development conference, entitled 'ChoosingInclusion'which will be held
> on Wednesday 14 September 2005 at the Birmingham Conservatoire.
>
> As you may have seen in Public Health News, we have another
> stimulatingday in store, with contributors including :
>
> David Hunter - Chair of UKPHA, & Professor of
> Health Policy & Management at the University of Durham Alex
> Scott-Samuel - Politics of Health Group, & Snr Lecturer in Public
> Health at the University of Liverpool
> Mike Kelly - Director of the Centre for Public
> Health Excellence at NICE Jeff French - Director of
> the National Social Marketing Team Jenny Griffiths - Independent
> Consultant, & 'Shaping the Future of Health
> Promotion' project Glenn Laverack - University
> of Auckland, NZ (to be confirmed)
>
> Late contributions may still be accepted, but at this stage only for
> parallel papers or displays/posters. Last year's contributors ranged
> from interationally-published workers to people innovating at a very
> grassroots level, and all were appreciated by delegates - so do tell
> us about any interesting work you have been hiding away !
>
> To access the delegate booking form, please see our website below, or
> else contact us at [log in to unmask] or on 0121 331 5550.
>
> Best wishes, and I hope to see you there on the day. Aldo Mussi (Snr
> Lecturer in Health Development) University of Central England,
> Birmingham.
> http://www.hcc.uce.ac.uk/Schools/healthdev/index.htm
>
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Alex Scott-Samuel
EQUAL (Equity in Health Research and Development Unit) Division of Public Health University of Liverpool Whelan Building Quadrangle Liverpool
L69 3GB
Tel (+44)151-794-5569
Fax (+44)151-794-5588
http://pcwww.liv.ac.uk/~alexss
e-mail [log in to unmask]
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