Nigel,

I think we need to have both, like a kind of puzzle,
integration and disintergation of components on a
system according to users' needs. there different
needs for more closed courses and different needs for
more open courses, differentnmethods of assessment and
fedback. As such, as a tutor/learner, I want to have
freedom of choice, not getting the packages other
people suggest as the perfect solution to a problem I
dont not have at the moment.
but if a problem arises tools for alternative
solutions need to be there to be integrated to the
course.

logical?

niki





--- Nigel PEET <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I think that if system providers have any vision
> they should be working
> on "dis-integrating" their systems. That is reducing
> to interoperable
> components the major areas of functionality such
> that content management
> and discovery (so we don't have to bulk load) is one
> module Assessment
> would be another, presentation another and so on.
> All modules exposing a
> web interface and working together while allowing us
> to select
> best-of-breed components to suit us. I will not be
> asking system
> suppliers to build a bigger monolith, however
> short-term attractive that
> might seem as a business model. As interesting as
> the Moodle LAMS
> project is I confess my heart sank when I read of
> it.
>
> Nigel Peet
> South Cheshire College
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Virtual Learning Environments
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> Behalf Of Luke Bennett, Production Manager, The
> Guardian Learnthings
> Sent: 08 June 2005 10:35
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>
> Hi Andy
>
> That is a good point well made, importing 1600
> Content Packages is a
> drag!
> What will happen if NLN Materials are repurposed and
> released to other
> sectors, like schools. MOODLELAMS will provide
> HE/FE/Schools and ACL a
> free
> to use turn-key solution. To make this bullet proof
> the best way to
> deliver
> content would be through a web service, where
> content is pushed to
> learning
> systems. We are too reliant on mundane jobs that are
> difficult to
> manage,
> we need to offer systems that let people concentrate
> on the learning and
> how they use content. Will the JORUM National
> Repository offer a web
> service to surface content? Such a service would
> change the face of
> e-learning.
>
> Luke Bennett
>
> The Guardian, Learnthings
> Production Manager
> www.learnpremium.co.uk
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> Andrew Dudfield
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> Learning
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> 08/06/2005 10:08
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> Please respond to
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> Virtual Learning
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> Environments
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> I have to agree with the comments Luke made here. I
> see point one (the
> bulk import of content packages) to be hugely
> important. We here at the
> NLN have produced 1600 packages, and it is hugely
> frustrating for our
> users to have to import (and then classify and
> assign) the packages one
> by one.
>
> I believe that with a more general/standardised
> adoption of metadata,
> even at quite a low level, the materials could be
> imported as a batch
> process. Surely one of the reasons why a XML
> manifest based content
> production method is used by a lot of people in the
> first place is the
> power and flexibility of automatic process?
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Luke Bennett, Production Manager, The Guardian
> Learnthings
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> Sent: 08 June 2005 09:48
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> Subject: Re: [VLES] MOODLE with LAMS
>
> Hi All
>
> Moodle and LAMS integration will have a massive
> impact on the landscape
> of
> the VLE marketplace. Commercial VLE providers will
> have to revisit their
> systems. Three things that would add significant
> value to the offering
> would be:
>
> 1. Bulk import of IMS Content Packages
> 2. Out the box integration with Windows Active
> Directory
> 3. Search functionality based on IMS metadata
>
> Does anybody in the community know if any of the
> above are in the
> making?
> Since a Colossus is in the making why not make the
> order taller?
>
>
> Luke Bennett
>
> The Guardian, Learnthings
> Production Manager
> www.learnpremium.co.uk
>
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> London EC1M 3JU
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