Thanks. I will look the paper up.
Not intending to attempt something messy, such as defining
classification taxonomies and new metadata schemas. We are using an
existing schema inherent from the underlying repository and exploring
means and proper workflow to enrich the metadata content, for users
to add annotations and "connect" various resources together. Hope to
put a demo up soon, if you promise not to mess up the content :-)
Best,
Boon
On 30 Jun 2005, at 12:57, Steve Richardson wrote:
> Youre right Boon, it is difficult to find. try troubador
> publishing, http://www.troubador.co.uk/journals/buy_journals.asp?
> journal=itse volume 1 issue 2 paper 2 ... And yes, the RESULTs site
> has been unavailable for a long time now - we tried to keep it up,
> but in the end no one was willing to pay for it, or had the time to
> devote freely to maintain it and it died - as any system does if it
> is neglected. We were heavily criticised for our 'forward' thinking
> and its only now three years later that the same people (you know
> who you are ;-) see you at IWMW next week! ) are coming to realise
> that we were on the right lines all along. The main bone of
> contention was along the lines of moderation and the risk that
> resources would be below a standard that was acceptable and the
> system was open to abuse - those edit buttons really are
> troublesome.. lol! I am inclined to agree, but as has been proved
> since with things like wikipaedia generally these arguments are
> unfounded - peer managed systems do work under certain conditions.
> There was still a lot of work needed to be done on RESULTs, some of
> which Ive done out of interest in my spare time and been very
> sucessful with, and as ridiculous as it may sound I have code sat
> on my computer I have written that solves specific problems, but
> its doing nothing. That and some changes in the schemas render a
> some of it in need of attention. None of it is unsalvagable. It is
> simply a question of money, time, etc...
> Hope this helps
> Wish you the very best of luck with your projects, Id love to see
> something like this in action!
> Steve
>
>
> Boon Low wrote:
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>> Steve,
>>
>> I remembered you mentioned a paper in a previous post re.
>> RESULTs. Can't find it, tried JISC website too. The project
>> website (www.results.ac.uk) is no longer accessible. Can you
>> forward any reference? I would check out again the postings on
>> "folksonomies" on this list for more details.
>>
>>
>> Boon
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Boon Low
>> System Developer, EGEE Training
>> UK National e-Science Centre
>> http://homepages.ed.ac.uk/boon
>>
>> On 30 Jun 2005, at 12:18, Steve Richardson wrote:
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>>> Sorry Boon,
>>> see RESULTs ... again!
>>> This is exactly what we did!
>>> All the best
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> Boon Low wrote:
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>>>
>>>> This is an interesting development and along the line of HTML
>>>> (presentation) to XML (structural) evolution.
>>>>
>>>> We have recently started to pilot a repository/testbed (based
>>>> on Fedora) for the training requirements of an European grid
>>>> computing project. Definitely have needs for an alternative
>>>> approach towards metadata provision (there isn't a dedicated
>>>> cataloguing team c.f. traditional libraries), especially to
>>>> enable collaborative input (and localisation) of metadata and
>>>> digital objects among distributed project partners.
>>>>
>>>> Instead staring into empty metadata pages, may be a good
>>>> strategy would be to provide a transparent infrastructure for
>>>> people to enhance and contribute metadata at ease, in
>>>> wikipedia fashion. Service-orientation means what people put
>>>> into the repository they could reuse/links to for other
>>>> contexts too via the protocols Lorcan has mentioned (OpenURL
>>>> and SRU). So, putting "edit" links to turn metadata pages into
>>>> editable forms (containers for metadata, instead of tags!)
>>>> would probably get a thumbs up here.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes
>>>>
>>>> Boon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Boon Low
>>>> System Developer, EGEE Training
>>>> UK National e-Science Centre
>>>> http://homepages.ed.ac.uk/boon
>>>>
>>>> On 29 Jun 2005, at 13:41, Dempsey,Lorcan wrote:
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Yes. We are looking at renaming it Wiki-D (Wiki-Data) both
>>>>> because of name clashes and to make it more descriptive.
>>>>>
>>>>> We hope it is of general interest. Jeff is working through
>>>>> some last-minute issues and with vacation (aka holiday) we
>>>>> are looking at some time in next couple of months for general
>>>>> release.
>>>>>
>>>>> One use will be to capture user input in our OpenWorldCat
>>>>> initiative http://orweblog.oclc.org/archives/000676.html
>>>>>
>>>>> It uses OpenURL 1.0, OAI, and SRU to tie things together.
>>>>> Three approaches which seem to be emerging as a core of many
>>>>> newer developments in the digital library space. http://
>>>>> orweblog.oclc.org/ archives/000654.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lorcan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lorcan Dempsey [http://orweblog.oclc.org]
>>>>> OCLC Research [http://www.oclc.org/research/]
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: The CETIS Metadata Special Interest Group [mailto:CETIS-
>>>>> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Andy Powell
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:20 AM
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: Living Taxonomy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Scott Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> A wiki is an interesting approach to collaboratively developing
>>>>>> taxonomies, but you're right, its not an easy way to acquire
>>>>>> a binding
>>>>>> of the taxonomy for use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff Young and Thom Hickey at OCLC have been working on
>>>>> something called a MetaWiki (though I think the branding is
>>>>> about to change) which offers structured interfaces to
>>>>> structured Wiki content...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.oclc.org/research/projects/metawiki/default.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand that the source code for this stuff will be
>>>>> rreleased in the fairly near future...
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28 Jun 2005, at 15:42, Pierre Gorissen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would be interested in hearing if you metadata experts
>>>>>>> think this
>>>>>>> is a good approach.
>>>>>>> I was just posting about this on my blog
>>>>>>> (http://www.gorissen.info/Pierre/item/2005/6/28/levende-
>>>>>>> taxonomie-n)
>>>>>>> when Scott mailed this. The post is in Dutch, so most of
>>>>>>> you won't be
>>>>>>> able to understand it but summarised the remarks I make are:
>>>>>>> * why have living taxonomies if we have folksonomy/tags? Will
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> people that want taxonomies also want to use a possibly
>>>>>>> often changing taxonomy?
>>>>>>> * wikis are not good to store structured information, the
>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>> format means I have to cut and paste each individual
>>>>>>> taxonomy- value.
>>>>>>> Use of RSS (possibly with the new proposed Simple List
>>>>>>> Extensions
>>>>>>> Specification) or VDEX as a format to provide the taxonomies
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> have made this (much) easier.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pierre Gorissen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: Scott Wilson
>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:14 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Living Taxonomy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FYI:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://livingtaxonomy.org/index.php/Main_Page
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "The Living Taxonomy Project is a collaborative effort aimed at
>>>>>>>> creating a global set of open source, standards-based
>>>>>>>> taxonomies for
>>>>>>>> education. The purpose of these taxonomies will be to
>>>>>>>> provide a free
>>>>>>>> cataloging structure for the collection and sharing of
>>>>>>>> education materials around the world."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - SOp deze e-mail zijn de volgende voorwaarden van toepassing:
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> The above disclaimer applies to this e-mail message.
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>>>>> Andy
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