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Re: Cyberspatial question for the holiday we ekend

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Sue Thomas <[log in to unmask]>

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Mapping and visualising Internet infrastructure and Web space <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 30 May 2005 22:17:40 +0100

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 Thank you everyone for some very useful answers. I'm enjoying working my
way through them and hope to try out my synthesis on you to see what you
think!

best
Sue

-----Original Message-----
From: martin dodge
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: 5/30/2005 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MAPPING-CYBERSPACE] Cyberspatial question for the holiday
weekend

On Sat, 28 May 2005, Sue Thomas wrote:


Hi Sue, a really good question. I have been thinking about this recently
in writing about traceroutes. The simple answer is that it goes into the
Internet cloud - hence the shorthand sketches used in technical book to
hide this problem. (See Jessie Scanlon's nice short article on this,
http://web.archive.org/web/20000816092658/http://www.thestandard.com/art
icle/display/0,1151,5466,00.html
)

To try to explain to students I always start by showing the Warriors of
the Net movie. They use a effective mechnical metaphor to show packets
moving and it very useful at one level. Movie is a free download from
http://www.warriorsofthe.net/

I have actually been conceptualising the packets beckoning their own
space
into being as they move. I use Paul Virilio's term of 'trajective' to
describe the spaces in-between.
http://lingua.utdallas.edu/call/trajectory.html

cheers
martin

> I've been thinking about this a lot lately. Can anyone point me to
research
> on the following question:
>
> If I throw a ball to you, we know that it passes through the air
between us.
> (unless we are in a vacuum, in which case we would both be dead etc
etc)
>
> Q: When a data packet 'travels' from one node to the next, does it
pass
> through anything? What is between the nodes? I know transfer is very
fast
> but nevertheless it is still transfer so there must be a point where
it is
> in neither place so it must be somewhere else. Shouldn't it? Or have I
> misunderstood?
>
> All hypotheses welcome. Preferably those I can understand ;)
>
> Sue
>
> http://travelsinvirtuality.typepad.com
>

________________________________________________________________________
_

martin dodge

cyber geography research
centre for advanced spatial analysis, university college london
gower street, london, wc1e 6bt, united kingdom

email: [log in to unmask] (remove the nospam bit)

http://www.casa.ucl.ac.uk       http://www.cybergeography.org
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