Hi Bob,
yes: - see the answer to the BPS list of FAQs on regualtion and what it
means:
<http://www.bps.org.uk/the-society/statutory-regulation/faq.cfm>
Why can't psychologists have their own regulatory body like doctors,
dentists, pharmacists and osteopaths?
--" This was the Society's original objective but it has been clear for
several years that government has decided against a proliferation of single
profession regulators and has begun the task of modernising regulation
across all professions. A Psychologists Registration Bill is not a viable
option. The message from the government is that statutory regulation of
psychology is strongly supported, but only if the profession seeks it
through the Health Professions Council (HPC). This was set out specifically
by the Minister and reported to the Society's AGM in March 2002".
but not too late to add voices ( probably whistling in the wind though) to
the DoH consultation process.
Annie
--On 24 March 2005 13:35 +0000 Diamond Bob <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I'm similarly concerned about usurping and censoring through
> professional routes the role of community psychology. My impression is
> that the BPS have already conceded future professional organization and
> identity to the HPC.
> Cheers, Bob Diamond
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Annie Mitchell
> Sent: 24 March 2005 12:37
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: You are not a community psychologist![Scanned By NHC]
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> To add to the debate, by and large I personally am unhappy with the
> increasing rise in regulatory processes - I would feel happier with
> statutory regulation if its intention was to empower and well as protect
> citizens.
>
> This is what I have said in my response to the consultation process:
>
> "I am opposed to statutory regulation of applied psychologists through
> the Health Professions Council. My view is based on the argument put
> forward by the lawyers Stone and Matthews (in Stone, J. and and
> Matthews, J.
> (1996) Complementary Medicine and the Law. Oxford: Oxford University
> Press) in relation to complementary health care. They contrast the
> orthodox doctor-patient relationship, in which the doctor is the expert
> and the patient the passive recipient of treatment, with a relationship
> based on mutual responsibilities and commitment in which information,
> and thus power, is shared. This power sharing model is one which is at
> the heart of modernising the NHS , and, in my view, the profession of
> clinical psychology. Stone and Matthews argue that ironically,a legal
> model of regulation ( although ostensibly intended to protect patients'
> interests ) may well be damaging to patient autonomy, since it carries
> with it an implication that patients have a passive rather than an
> active position within the therapeutic relationship.
>
> Instead, Stone and Matthews call for a patient-centred, non-statutory
> regulatory framework with clear systems for registration, a strong code
> of ethics and effective and accessible grievance procedures. Such a
> model acknowledges patients ( or clients) and their advocates, in the
> case of children and others who are vulnerable, as autonomous agents,
> capable of making personal choices and with obligations to play an
> active part in interventions. I believe that our professional body, the
> BPS, already provides such a framework.
>
> If statutory regulation becomes inevitable, I would prefer it to be done
> under the auspices of the BPS, since in my opinion this holds a better
> chance of retaining values of empowering patients/ clients than does
> the framework of an independent regulatory body which I fear stands at
> risk of undue political and "establishment" influence."
>
> However, I am afraid that my trust in the BPS as a body that supports
> the empowerment of non-professionals may be misplaced - but at least
> this would avoid further regulation..... I can see that others may feel
> that regulation through the HPC may be a better bet, and they may well
> be right... though I fail to see that it can be relevant for educational
> and
> occupational and community psychologists. But what will happen is
> that
> we will have both processes if the regulation through the HPC goes
> through.
>
> be interested in others' views.
>
> Annie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --On 24 March 2005 11:18 +0000 "Paul@home"
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for bringing this to our attention Annie,
>>
>> Deeply worrying stuff in terms of cp. I agree with Annie, we woudl
>> benefit from some debate on this....
>>
>> We know how ineffective similar professional regulating bodies have
>> been
>> re: the Medical Research Council which has been criticised for doing
> more
>> to protect the interests of doctors than patients. That aside, what
> are
>> the implications for our talk of getting CP BPS recognition?
>>
>> If the BPS has recommended that seven of it ten divisions should come
>
>> under the Health Act provision which seeks to 'regulate professions
>> that are concered (wholly or partly) with the physical or mental
>> health of individuals' would this mean that if we become a
>> 'recognised' part of the profession of psychology, that we too might
>> come under this provision? If so, could this effectively butcher our
>> network through cleaving open divisions between those who would be
>> legally permitted to call themselves community psychologists (and
>> prepared to pay out yet another subscription fee to belong to yet
>> another professional body) and those who would not!! I don't know the
>> answers I am afraid....
>>
>>
>> kind thoughts
>>
>> paul
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of amitchel
>> Sent: 16 March 2005 23:51
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] FWD: Registration of Clinical
>> Psychologists
>>
>>
>>> Dear all,
>> ===
>> You may like to look at and comment, as explained in the document, on
>> the proposals for clinical and other applied psychologists to become
>> registered under the Health Professions Council. This will be
>> compulsory for employment in the NHS (and will cost you!).
>>
>> We might like to debate what this means for community psychologists as
>
>> applied practitioners.
>>
>>
>> Annie
>>
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> Annie Mitchell
> Lecturer in Psychology,
> Clinical Director, Doctorate in Clinical and Community Psychology,
>
> School of Psychology,
> Washington Singer Building,
> University of Exeter,
> Exeter,
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