Dear Karl, James,
A couple of years ago a Ganga front end to BaBar was provided by Janusz
Martyniak at Imperial ([log in to unmask]). Janusz is
still around (working on GridCC) so you could contact him for any
insight. I don't know why this wasn't taken further but it is possible
that it's time has now come (Ganga has come a long way design-wise; and
BaBar have make great progress too)? Notionally, this would be a great
way to proceed and would certainly qualify as a highlight success.
Regards, Dave.
Karl Harrison wrote:
>Dear James,
>
> I found your web pages interesting, although it looks as if EasyGrid
>is trying to the same as Ganga, but limited to BaBar. Ganga provides
>a generic job definition/submission framework, into which
>extensions specific to a particular experiment/user are easily added.
>The EasyGrid instructions contain a lot of "in file x change lines y to z",
>which wouldn't be needed in Ganga, where configurable parameters are
>placed in evidence in application/backend schemas.
>
> Is there any chance of you having a look at Ganga
>(http://ganga.web.cern.ch/ganga), to see if it's potentially useful
>for BaBar? The most recent paper is the one
>submitted to AHM05:
> http://ganga.web.cern.ch/ganga/documents/pdf/ganga_ahm05.pdf
>or to try it out, you could have a look at:
> http://ganga.web.cern.ch/ganga/user/v4/CLIP/
>(I'm afraid that this only describes version 4.0.0-beta1, and for
>LCG submission you'll need 4.0.0-beta3, to be released next week.)
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Karl.
>
>===========================================================================
>
>On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, James Werner wrote:
>
>
>
>>Dear David,
>>I would appreciate very much if you write in "Aplications/ 10 Integration with
>>running experiments" about my web page:
>>
>>HEP analysis, Grid and EasyGrid Job Submission Prototype: Babar/CM2 showcase
>>http://www.hep.man.ac.uk/u/jamwer/
>>
>>This page contains the development of EasyGrid (a job submission system for
>>LCG) that has all necessary modules to do HEP analysis using grid. A babar
>>software tutorial is also provided.
>>EasyGrid especification is available at
>>http://www.hep.man.ac.uk/u/jamwer/#sec9 and user manual at
>>http://www.hep.man.ac.uk/u/jamwer/userman.html
>>
>>There are 3 benchmarks:
>> 1. Discrimination of Pions and Kaons in the electromagnetic calorimeter: 18
>>million events in 26 jobs, 10 jobs in parallel.
>> 2. Pi 0 reconstruction: see http://www.hep.man.ac.uk/u/jamwer/pi0alg5.html
>>for a very interesting analysis. 500 million events running in 200 jobs in
>>several sites (Manchester testbed, Manchester production, and RAL). I
>>generated 6 million monte carlo eventsat Manchester production. The parametric
>>model was Breit-Wigner invariant mass model.
>> 3. Searching for deuterons: this project was a stress test for grid. see
>>http://www.hep.man.ac.uk/u/jamwer/deutdesc.html
>>The first run was 80 jobs with 20 million events each. The second was 800 jobs
>>with 2 million events each.
>>
>>Grid evaluation can be found at http://www.hep.man.ac.uk/u/jamwer/#sec15
>>
>>Best regards,
>>James
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: David Britton <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Reply-To: David Britton <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: Provoking?
>>>Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:45:33 -0400
>>>
>>>Dear Colleagues,
>>>
>>>At the last Oversight Committee meeting, GridPP was asked to document the
>>>"Value added or Delivered by the Project". Although this seems like another
>>>piece of make-work, presumably its value is that it can be passed up the
>>>political food-chain and is an opportunity for us to define our successes.
>>>Of course, being at the bottom of the food-chain, it has landed on my desk
>>>or, more accurately, it appeared on the GridPP14 Programme
>>>( http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/gridpp14/programme.html ) with my name attached as
>>>"Provocateur". So, in order to provoke, I have pre-prepared (off the top of
>>>my head so to speak) a list of 22 possible key things that we might
>>>document. They are available on the web linked from the relevant item om the
>>>GridPP14 programme, or at:
>>>http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/pmb/ProjectManagement/GridPPAchievements.htm
>>>
>>>I think most members of GridPP will have an opinion about at least a few
>>>items that they would like to appear in such a list. Please feel free to
>>>contact me or to contribute during the GridPP14 session, if you feel some
>>>key item is missing. For items that are there, the next step is the wording
>>>(in most cases I have made a first attempt which you can see by clicking on
>>>the relevant item in the list). Again, I will be happy to receive comments
>>>and suggestions on the wording in advance or during the session. The final
>>>step will be to add tertiary information that backs up the higher level
>>>statements by referencing more specific items (such as code delivered or
>>>roles held etc).
>>>
>>>Regards, Dave.
>>>
>>>
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