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Subject:

Minutes of the 180th GridPP PMB meeting

From:

Tony Doyle <[log in to unmask]>

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Tony Doyle <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 8 Aug 2005 11:31:26 +0100

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Dear All,

     Please find attached the weekly GridPP Project Management
Board Meeting minutes. The latest minutes can be found each week in:

http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/php/pmb/minutes.php?latest

as well as being listed with other minutes at

http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/php/pmb/minutes.php

Cheers, Tony
________________________________________________________________________
Tony Doyle, GridPP Project Leader            Telephone: +44-141-330 5899
Rm 478, Kelvin Building                        Telefax: +44-141-330 5881
Dept of Physics and Astronomy           EMail: [log in to unmask]
University of Glasgow             Web: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~doyle
G12 8QQ, UK                                      Video - IP: 194.36.1.32
________________________________________________________________________




GridPP PMB Minutes 180 - 1st August 2005 ======================================== Present: Steve Lloyd, Tony Doyle, Dave Kelsey, Dan Tovey, Dave Britton, Robin Middleton by phone, Sarah Pearce (Skype) 1. Preparations for LHC Exploitation Planning Review. ===================================================== TD had sent a draft of the "Grid for LHC Exploitation" document for review for comments. TD said that no more than 3 side of A4 were expected for this and as a starting point it should be outlined what the requirements are to maintain and operate the Grid from 2008-2012. The Tier-1 input would be translated in a format similar to Tier-2 in terms of hardware and running costs and it is understood that JG has arranged for Andrew Sansum to work on this presently. It is expected to have comments from the experiments people who are also invited to offer input as well as their support. TD considered removing the FTE statements regarding 24*7 working, weekend shifts etc as not being likely however DK said increased working hours was a possibility. DK also asked about the table of figures in Tier-1 with regard to the ~1.5m p.a. funding. TD said this had been included but the updated cost table would be based upon meeting minimum requirements in 2008-2012. DK was concerned that there had been too many cuts in the figures but TD said he would specify that these would be the minimum pre-requisite for running a Grid. Further discussion took place on this and DK said he would send additional comments via email. It was agreed that the information on Middleware and Applications Interfaces was not realistic and further explanation was needed to state clearly how objectives would be met. RM said he would provide an update in this area. It was also decided that middleware effort would be increased during FY08 and FYO9. These and a number of other changes in the summary figures in the table of Resource Requirements would be updated by DB. A project leader for the UK Grid would be needed with administration and documentation support. This was included in the cost estimates. TD said that although it had not been asked for, he thought it appropriate to include FEC estimated costs for staff. The document would be titled "The Grid for LHC Exploitation". The board members said they would continue to work on this document with a view to having a completed version to be sent to the CB by Tuesday evening. Note: this was completed by Tuesday evening. Comments were received by the CB and PMB by Friday noon and the final text and associated spreadsheets were made available to the PMB, CB, UK LHC experiments spokesmen, the LHC exploitation review panel members and PPARC for their consideration on the 5th August deadline. ACTIONS AS AT 1ST AUGUST 2005 ============================== 178.1: JG, TC & TD to prepare Tier-1 input for LHC exploitation review - done 178.2: SL, DB & TD to prepare Tier-2 input for LHC exploitation review - done 178.3: RM, RJ & TD to prepare middleware input for LHC exploitation review - done STANDING ITEMS ============== SI-1 ALL: to provide any news items and meeting dates for the web page to SP. RJ provided an item on Service challenges at Lancaster which SP has posted. SP will post an item on SL's re-appointment as Chair of the CB and TD will provide her with a quote for this. (NEW ACTION) SP said that a slot for SuperComputing has been offered. Two people will be nominated to attend. A talk on GridPP in general will be included. TD & JC's AHM talks could be used as basis for this. BP has sent text to PPARC for AHM flyers, and been working with designers on the stand. The deadline for JPhysG is next Monday. SP has had some specific comments regarding CDF/D0 which she will follow up. SI-2 Production Manager's weekly report of issues. 2.6 was released this week. ACTIONS AS AT 1ST AUGUST 2005 ============================= 180.1: SP to prepare news on SL's re-appointment as Chair of the CB.

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