Dear All,
Please find attached the weekly GridPP Project Management
Board Meeting minutes. The latest minutes can be found each week in:
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/php/pmb/minutes.php?latest
as well as being listed with other minutes at
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/php/pmb/minutes.php
Cheers, Tony
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Tony Doyle, GridPP Project Leader Telephone: +44-141-330 5899
Rm 478, Kelvin Building Telefax: +44-141-330 5881
Dept of Physics and Astronomy EMail: [log in to unmask]
University of Glasgow Web: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~doyle
G12 8QQ, UK Video - IP: 194.36.1.32
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GridPP PMB Minutes 176 - 27th June 2005
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Present: Tony Doyle, Robin Middleton, Steve Lloyd, Dave Britton, John
Gordon, Jeremy Coles with Dan Tovey by phone. Sarah Pearce by SKYPE
Apologies: Dave Kelsey, Roger Jones, Tony Cass & Peter Clarke.
1. AHM 8 page summary "GridPP: Meeting the Particle Physics Computing
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Challenge"
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TD said he had been discussing JPhysG with SP and she needed a short
version of an introduction to Middleware in a different form with some
discussion on interfacing between experiments and how they integrate to
the Grid. Given that everyone is busy right now, TD says he will use the
existing documents as basis for AHM writeup and will iterate with SP
prior to this. A version will be sent to the PMB by Thursday.
2. OC Meeting Friday 1st July
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TD asked DB if there was anything outstanding regarding the Project Map.
DB said it should be presented as "work in progress". SL suggested that TD
prepare some slides for the meeting to respond to issues that the OC were
likely to bring up. TD noted that in addition to the actions the OC were
likely to ask about EGEE and we should be prepared for this.
3. GridPP13 - next week's DB and UB discussions
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TD hoped that everyone agreed that the main agenda was clear and now
final. RM confirmed that Stephen Burke would cover the g-Lite talk
and he would ask Neil to present the Middleware talk on Wednesday
afternoon in his absence. (NEW ACTION)
The Deployment parallel sessions under the remit of DK & JC were under
control.
DT said he had prepared an agenda for the UB parallel session - URL:
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/eb/050705/index.html.
He said there would be a separate meeting arranged for Application
Planning and requests with regard to Tier-1/A Planning were invited. He
asked if someone from DB or PMB could attend the UB meeting and SL said
that he would go.
[Note that 83 people are confirmed as participating in the GridPP13
meeting.]
4. CB - 7th July 2005
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SL said the agenda had been prepared and included:
Project Leader's report - Tony Doyle
Project Manager's report - Dave Britton
Experiment Shares - Dave Britton
Tier-2 Status - Steve Lloyd
Beyond GridPP2 - Tony Doyle
LHC Exploitation Planning Review
EGEE next phase
Dissemination
SL noted that the CB chair would be up for renewal shortly. He mentioned
that Liverpool may be discussed in Tier-2 Status. TD asked if anyone had
slides that could be used for EGEE - next phase. He would like to have
them by the end of this week if possible.
5. BaBar MoU - IFC meeting
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TD said that in a statement from PPARC (Janet Seed), it had been agreed
that the MoU be signed up fully for BaBar. In doing so two components
would need to be recognised - the existing commitments for GridPP
done using the Form X-based formula and an additional best efforts
component. The BaBar MoU would thus have to be signed up with a caveat
stating that best efforts to provide required resources depended on
scheduling of all experiments and that firm commitments could not be made
for the shared Tier-1/A resource. TD said he would forward the full
statement from Janet Seed to the board (sent later in the day).
6. 05Q2 Quarterly Reports
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DB reminded coordinators that 05Q2 reports were due soon. He noted that
we are mandated to complete the quarterly reporting process within a
month of the end of the quarter. However, DB needed 2 weeks to process
the reports and iterate on any details. Therefore, coordinators should
try to meet the previously agreed deadline of the 15th of the month to
submit their reports.
ACTIONS
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167.2: JC, with input from Stephen Burke to maintain a list of middleware
issues that should be addressed.
done - JC has prepared a list and will speak to SB at Durham.
167.3: RJ to define UK contacts for each experiment who will respond on
experiment operational issues.
part done - RJ sent an email with the following information:-
For operational contacts, the confirmed contacts are
ATLAS - Frederic Brochu
CMS - Dave Newbold
LHCb - Glen Patrick (will change)
PhenoGrid - [log in to unmask]
MICE - Paul Kyberd
H1 - Dave Sankey
Outstanding cases currently are
D0; CDF; BaBar; QCDGrid; ZEUS
167.5: DK to define a possible technical documentation role.
ongoing
170.2: RJ to invite representatives to talk to the PMB about GANGA status
ongoing - RJ will arrange this at Durham
170.4: TD to speak to COD people about the sound delay in the system
done - TD spoke to the person in question who said the problem was not
caused by the system. The board however, do not agree with this and TD
will check this by using the self-test system on the JVCS On-Demand system
URL to check our end points (NEW ACTION)
Note: the GridPP Videoconferencing page was updated to link to the new
JVCS OnDemand system. See
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/meetings/videoconf.html
172.1: SP to check how much money is available in the budget for
further dissemination possibilities, then to circulate request to
UKHEPGRID.
~done - this has been discussed and some rules have been drafted. SL will
introduce this into his talk at GridPP13.
175.1: TD to liaise with PMB to complete AHM report the week prior to OC
meeting
done - TD & SP have discussed this and will have the report signed off for
Saturday.
NEW ACTION 176.1: RM to ask NG to do the Middleware talk on Wednesday
afternoon at GridPP13.
NEW ACTION 176.2: TD will use self-test system on JVCS OnDemand to check
end points re the sound delay.
STANDING ITEMS
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SI-1 ALL: to provide any news items and meeting dates for the web page to
SP.
SP said that she (or BP) had posted a news item on ATLAS production and BP
had posted one on Networking for Non-Networkers with photographs
SI-2 Production Manager's weekly report of issues.
JC said that LCG 2.5.0 had been released last Thursday. It had been hoped
to release LCG 2.6.0 by 8th July but this has been delayed as the
management system has not been fully tested.
AOB
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JG noted that RAL would be developing the SRM interface for CASTOR. This
would be recognised at CERN as the RAL contribution to CASTOR development.
ACTIONS AT 27TH JUNE 2005
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167.3: RJ to define UK contacts for D0; CDF; BaBar; QCDGrid; ZEUS - who
will respond on experiment operational issues.
167.5: DK to define a possible technical documentation role.
170.2: RJ to invite representatives to talk to the PMB about GANGA status
176.1: RM to ask NG to do the Middleware talk on Wednesday afternoon at
GridPP13.
176.2: TD to use self-test system to check end points re the sound delay
on JVCS OnDemand system.
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