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Subject:

Minutes of the 175th GridPP PMB meeting

From:

Tony Doyle <[log in to unmask]>

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Tony Doyle <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:07:46 +0100

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Dear All,

     Please find attached the weekly GridPP Project Management
Board Meeting minutes. The latest minutes can be found each week in:

http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/php/pmb/minutes.php?latest

as well as being listed with other minutes at

http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/php/pmb/minutes.php

Cheers, Tony
________________________________________________________________________
Tony Doyle, GridPP Project Leader            Telephone: +44-141-330 5899
Rm 478, Kelvin Building                        Telefax: +44-141-330 5881
Dept of Physics and Astronomy           EMail: [log in to unmask]
University of Glasgow             Web: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~doyle
G12 8QQ, UK                                      Video - IP: 194.36.1.32
________________________________________________________________________






GridPP PMB Minutes 175 - 20th June 2005 ======================================== Present: Tony Doyle, Robin Middleton, Steve Lloyd, John Gordon & Dave Kelsey. Dan Tovey by phone. Dave Britton & Sarah Pearce by SKYPE Apologies: Jeremy Coles, Roger Jones, Tony Cass & Peter Clarke. 1. Status of OC input documents =============================== PMB - Executive Summary - GridPP-PMB-51-Exec TD said he will start this on Wednesday and have it completed by Friday. TC - LCG Status Report - GridPP-PMB-52-LCG TC has sent V.0.1. TD has sent some comments to be incorporated. RM,JG - EGEE Report - GridPP-PMB-53-EGEE RM said the intro and headings were in place. JG said he would have several pages completed for Tuesday am. DK,JC - Deployment Board - GridPP-PMB-54-Deployment Board DK has sent a draft and has received comments from JC & TD to be addressed later. RM - Middleware/Security/Network - GridPP-PMB-55-Middleware/Security/Network RM is just about to start on this and will have pages in place by the middle of the week. RJ, DT - Applications - GridPP-PMB-56-Applications RJ has sent a draft and TD has returned comments on this. TD noted that a GANGA meeting took place last week which could be referred to. RJ will add some information on this to the document. TD, JG - Tier-1 - GridPP-PMB-57-Tier-1/A TD, JG and AS iterated on this to v0.6. JG will sign this off as soon as possible. SL - Tier-2 - GridPP-PMB-58-Tier-2 SL submitted a final draft today for comments. SP - Dissemination - GridPP-PMB-59-Dissemination SP had circulated an updated version incorporating TD's comments. If she receives no other remarks, this will be considered final. (note: final version circulated on Wednesday) DB - Project Map - GridPP-PMB-60-Project Map will be addressed in item 2. DB - Resource Report - GridPP-PMB-61-Resources will be addressed in item 2. DT - User Board Summary - GridPP-PMB-62-User Board Following the initial draft, DT said he would send the final version tonight with a few minor alterations. TD commented on the structure and asked if the summarised questionnaire results could be incorporated. DT said these had been submitted earlier and therefore this would be somewhat repetitive, but there was additional input from some experiments. RJ - T1-T2 and Analysis - GridPP-PMB-63-Analysis A version of this has been sent to the PMB: TD asked JG to review it from the Tier-1 perspective. JC++ - Metrics and "get fit" - GridPP-PMB-64-Metrics TD remarked that this document was very good and had a full list of metrics to be converted into the Project Map. Some further iteration is required between JC & DB. RM - Middleware planning - GridPP-PMB-65-Middleware RM asked from comments on the version circulated on Monday. (note: final version circulated on Wednesday) TD said there should be a version of all documents by Wednesday with the view to final completion by Friday. SL noted that the the logbooks were complete and already in place. 2. Status of Project Map Inputs =============================== 1) Production Grid Milestones - These have been updated. Waiting for JC to confirm some details (emailed questions on Saturday 18/June). - DB has had further iteration with JC - this is progressing. 2) Production Grid Metric - These have still not been updated since December though work has been done on refining these by JC, DB, TD. - JC has sent DB a spreadsheet which is in the process of being checked. 3) LCG Area of ProjectMap. Some discussion has taken place between TD, DB (and earlier with TC). Waiting for TC to respond to TD and then for TD to provide definitive list to DB. - DB is now waiting for a definitive list from TD. 4) Security: Waiting for RM to confirm status of security deliverables 2.4.1 and 2.4.11. - RM noted AMcN was away but he would get info on security deliverables 2.4.1 and 2.4.11. from someone else. - DK said 2.4.14 and 2.4.15 were okay and he would provide text/URL link. 5) Network: Waiting for RM to confirm status of 2.6.12 and to provide backup information on 2.6.11. Robin, can you also comment on whether 2.6.10 and 2.6.13 are OK or not. - RM said 2.6.11 was okay but he would confirm the others at some point (R Tasker was away at the Networking for Non-Networkers meeting). 6) Ganga: Waiting for a ChangeForm from Glen via RJ for 3.2.1. 7) PhenoGrid: Waiting for confirmation on 3.5.1 via RJ. - now complete 8) SAMGrid: Waiting for comments on 4.2.8 and 4.2.9 from RJ. - okay but some concerns arise that require comment in the report. 9) 5.2.2 (number of vacant posts). Waiting for DK/AS to confirm Tier-1 Effort and resolve the difference between the Tier-1 quarterly reports and the effort documented in the SLA. - it was confirmed that two vacancies had been taken up but a further two posts had still to be filled. 10) Dissemination - waiting for the dissemination metrics to complete 6.1.1 through to 6.1.9 and 6.2.11 and 6.2.12, and 6.3.1 though to 6.4.4. - SP has sent DB an email about this. 11) Updated T2 certification Risk from JC. - some questions received from JC The next two are not critical (just important!) 12) Need links for most of the Completed Production milestones. 13) Need links for some of the completed MSN milestones. 3. Status of GridPP13 registrations =================================== TD said that 52 had enrolled but the expected figure was 60. The deadline has been extended to Wednesday as TD noted that some of the speakers had not registered as yet. He said that the agenda was ~complete. A request has been sent from PPARC asking for an evaluation report of the various elements of the e-Science Programme. SP said she would take this on for GridPP. ACTIONS AT 20TH JUNE 2005 ========================= 157.2: RJ - review experiment computing models for Tier-1 to Tier-2 interactions in the UK. done 157.9: RM to report on direction of GridPP in terms of middleware. done 167.2: JC, with input from Stephen Burke to maintain a list of middleware issues that should be addressed ongoing - SB will provide a middleware list before the OC meeting 167.3: RJ to define UK contacts for each experiment who will respond on experiment operational issues. ongoing 167.5: DK to define a possible technical documentation role. ongoing 170.2: RJ to invite to representatives to talk to the PMB about GANGA status ongoing - a representative from GANGA has been asked to attend the PMB next week 170.3: DT to compile and issue a follow-up questionnaire to UB done 170.4: TD to speak to COD people about the sound delay in the system ongoing 172.1: SP to check how much money is available in the budget for further dissemination possibilities, then to circulate request to UKHEPGRID. ongoing - SL to discuss with BP 173.1: JG to resolve allocation of security post for CCLRC done 174.1: JC to look into specialised induction training of System Managers (to take place at RAL) done - a working practice for this is already in place - next induction is in September. NEW ACTION 175.1: TD to liaise with PMB to complete AHM report the week prior to OC meeting AOB === TD said the AHM report should be completed by 1st July and he would draft/co-ordinate this after this week. (NEW ACTION) STANDING ITEMS ============== SI-1 ALL: to provide any news items and meeting dates for the web page to SP. BP has posted a news item on GridPP13. Thanks to Philippa Strange for the article on 100 green sites. BP will compile a report on "Networking for Non-Networkers" which she is attending in Edinburgh on Tuesday 21st June. SI-2 Production Manager's weekly report of issues. ACTIONS AT 20TH JUNE 2005 ========================= 167.2: JC, with input from Stephen Burke to maintain a list of middleware issues that should be addressed 167.3: RJ to define UK contacts for each experiment who will respond on experiment operational issues. 167.5: DK to define a possible technical documentation role. 170.2: RJ to invite to representatives to talk to the PMB about GANGA status 170.4: TD to speak to COD people about the sound delay in the system 172.1: SP to check how much money is available in the budget for further dissemination possibilities, then to circulate request to UKHEPGRID. 175.1: TD to liaise with PMB to complete AHM report the week prior to OC meeting

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