Dear All,
Please find attached the weekly GridPP Project Management
Board Meeting minutes. The latest minutes can be found each week in:
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/php/pmb/minutes.php?latest
as well as being listed with other minutes at
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/php/pmb/minutes.php
Cheers, Tony
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Tony Doyle, GridPP Project Leader Telephone: +44-141-330 5899
Rm 478, Kelvin Building Telefax: +44-141-330 5881
Dept of Physics and Astronomy EMail: [log in to unmask]
University of Glasgow Web: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~doyle
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GridPP PMB Minutes 158 - 24th January 2005
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Present: Tony Doyle, Steve Lloyd, John Gordon, Dave Britton, Tony Cass,
Dan Tovey. Roger Jones & Sarah Pearce (by phone)
Apologies: Robin Middleton, Jeremy Coles, Dave Kelsey
1.Q4 2004 Logbook Status
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TD asked for each member overseeing logbooks to highlight any Q404 reports
that were missing. The following were late, as of Monday (to be received
by the end of the week):
Applications (RJ) - BaBar, PhenoGrid and Portal
M/S/N (RM) - None outstanding
Tier-2 Coordinators (JC) - had reported by email that responses were
needed from all Tier-2 Coordinators and he hoped to have these by Tuesday
Tier-2 Hardware posts (SL) - ScotGrid; NorthGrid; SouthGrid and London
Tier-1 (TD) - planned for Wednesday 26th Jan.
Tier-2 Middleware support posts - postholders were typically
not yet in place. An interim reporting mechanism was needed for Q404.
Issues arising and feedback would be provided at the face-to-face on
Wednesday 2nd Feb.
2. JPhysG
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SP said that PC, SL & TD had met last week to look over this together.
They did some work on the introduction, Deployment and Applications. SP
said she was now working on the summary chapter. It is hoped to have a
version by next week that they are happy with. SP said some comments had
been received from the collaboration members but these were not
problematic. She asked if the PMB could look at their sections by next
week and then she would put it in order. The deadline was now passed for
any other contributions.
3. GridPP12 agenda
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TD said that some details on logistics needed to be discussed with
Peter Hobson.
Note: this was done on Wednesday.
Some minor changes have been made to the agenda. The Top 10 issues
discussion session has been curtailed by half an hour to accommodate
Jamie Shears' talk on LCG Service Challenges.
SL noted that Brunel is difficult to reach from nearest tube. TD said he
would put a link on the GridPP12 page to a street map.
Now at
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/gridpp12/
pointing to the latest ~final agenda.
4. Face to Face Agenda
=======================
DB said he had sent a draft agenda and had asked for area managers to
report on any issues they feel that need to be addressed. A final agenda
will be issued when all the lists have been received. 9.30am was
confirmed as the start time on Wednesday. Provision was made
for the DTEAM to have a f2f on Tuesday 16.00-18.00.
5. Additional Tier-1 Hardware
==============================
PPARC had released some additional Datagrid funding (£171k). As the OC
and the CB had pointed out that there was a lack of hardware at the
Tier-1, TD suggested that this funding should be directed towards this line.
The PMB agreed that this funding should be directed towards the
Tier-1 hardware line. DB noted that the Tier-1 Board should then discuss
implementation.
Actions
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140.9 RM to finalise LCG Deployment Logbook
ongoing
143.1 TC to investigate making existing LCG source RPMs visible at CERN
ongoing - discussion still to take place with Ian Bird
157.1: DT - compile a document on experimental engagements
and the difficulties as they currently perceive them
ongoing - DT said he would send another prompt to people and hoped to have
this completed for the face-to-face.
157.2: RJ - review applications engagement
Following discussion between JG and RJ: models for how the Tier-1 and
Tier-2 operations should interact are emerging from the LHC computing
models. These need to be placed in the UK context. RJ volunteered to
review and document this area
157.2': RJ - review experiment computing models for Tier-1 to Tier-2
interactions in the UK.
157.3: RM to speak to Stephen Burke to ask if he could work on
a plan to support UK physics analysis community in 2007 with RJ
ongoing
157.4: TD to co-ordinate development of Tier-1 allocation policy
ongoing - context is being prepared to sign up to LCG MoUs in March
157.5: DB to co-ordinate development of new risk register.
ongoing - various people have been contacted. DB will go over this at the
face-to-face
157.8: DK to liase with members of Deployment Team for summarising metrics.
ongoing - JC had discussion with Tier-2 about this and some problems were
foreseen
157.9: RM to report on direction of GridPP in terms of middleware.
ongoing
157.10: JC to report on status of Tier-1 applications w.r.t.
middleware adoption/use
ongoing
157.11: JG to provide info. on VAT exemption criteria
raised initially at CB - ongoing
157.12: SP to provide standard template talk for schools
raised initially at CB - ongoing
157.13: SL to collect Form X information
raised initially at CB - ongoing
157.14: JG to send a message to sites reminding them not to
delete files on the SE
done
NEW ACTION 158.1: JG to circulate a list of Tier-1 experimental contact
names to PMB
AOB
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Interviews for the appointment of a Events Officer will take place on 10th
February. JG referred to the email he had been sent re: LCG within the UK.
He has been asked a number of detailed questions about Tier-2s and
experiment testing within the UK. TD said we would have to have a means
of answering this via actions 157.1 and 157.2
The status of technical contacts between each experiment and the Tier-1
centre was not clear.
NEW ACTION - JG to circulate a list of Tier-1 experimental contact names
to PMB (following input from Andrew Sansum and DT)
STANDING ITEMS
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SI-1 ALL: to provide any news items and meeting dates for the web page to SP.
SP asked if SL could take photographs at GridPP12 and send them to her.
She also asked if she could have a news item about OC & CB.
TD said that Andy Parker had given a summary to the e-Science Steering
Committee on Friday and had received favourable feedback. She asked if
there were minutes available to form a report. After some discussion, DB
said he would provide a paragraph on this.
SI-2 Production Manager's weekly report of issues.
As per email from JC:
1) The UK support model - JG discussed the structure of
GOSC/ROC/GridPP roles within a UK support organisation to deal with
operational queries.
It was not clear to the DTEAM how GGUS and User Support are working.
The DTEAM have this together with Footprints (UK helpdesk system at RAL)
training listed as a priority topic for the next F2F meeting.
2) All contributors for the web pages have agreed to upload new content by
the end of next week. There is some concern though that this is only ever
going to be an interative cycle.
3) For the Tier-0 to Tier-1 Service Challenge 3, RAL will use dCache to
provide an SRM to tape. Earlier plans proposed the new RAL SRM for this
service but it is not clear that it can be production ready in time.
Note: the metting was curtailed at this point.
ACTIONS AS AT 24th JANUARY 2004
==============================
140.9 RM to finalise LCG Deployment Logbook
143.1 TC to investigate making existing LCG source RPMs visible at CERN
157.1: DT - compile a document on experimental engagements
and the difficulties as they currently perceive them
157.2: RJ - review experiment computing models for Tier-1 to Tier-2
interactions in the UK.
157.3: RM to speak to Stephen Burke to ask if he could work on
a plan to support UK physics analysis community in 2007 with RJ
157.4: TD to co-ordinate development of Tier-1 allocation policy
157.5: DB to co-ordinate development of new risk register.
157.8: DK to liase with members of Deployment Team for
summarising metrics.
157.9: RM to report on direction of GridPP in terms of middleware.
157.10: JC to report on status of Tier-1 applications w.r.t.
middleware adoption/use
157.11: JG to provide info. on VAT exemption criteria
157.12: SP to provide standard template talk for schools
157.13: SL to collect Form X information
158.1: JG to circulate a list of Tier-1 experimental contact names to PMB
STANDING ITEMS
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SI-1 ALL: to provide any news items and meeting dates for the web page to
SP.
SI-2 Production Manager's weekly report of issues.
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