Dear All,

     Please find attached the weekly GridPP Project Management
Board Meeting minutes. The latest minutes can be found each week in:

http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/php/pmb/minutes.php?latest

as well as being listed with other minutes at
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/php/pmb/minutes.php

Cheers, Tony
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Tony Doyle, GridPP Project Leader            Telephone: +44-141-330 5899
Rm 478, Kelvin Building                        Telefax: +44-141-330 5881
Dept of Physics and Astronomy           EMail: [log in to unmask]
University of Glasgow             Web: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~doyle
G12 8QQ, UK                                      Video - IP: 194.36.1.32
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                GridPP PMB Minutes 156 - 7th January 2005

                =========================================

Present: Tony Doyle, Steve Lloyd, John Gordon, Tony Cass, Robin Middleton,

Dan Tovey (by phone), Dave Kelsey, Roger Jones.



1) OC Documents

===============

The documents for the Oversight Committee including the 

Resource, ProjectMap and Exec Summary reports are available at 

http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/docs/oversight/ 

The logbooks are kept in a password protected area.



RM questioned the name of the Deployment logbook which is really LCG

Deployment.



TD said that his and DB's talks will have to be written over the weekend.

It was agreed that they would not be circulated over the weekend but on Monday

in time for the CB on Wednesday.



Notes: 

1. the talks are now available from

http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/talks/#official

and

http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/cb/

2. the GridPP1 final project map 

http://www.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk/CMS/IC_GridPP/WebVersion/ProjectMap23.htm

and the first release GridPP2 project map

http://www.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk/CMS/IC_GridPP/WebVersion/GridPP2_ProjectMap_1.htm

are now linked to

http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/pmb/

where the PMB documents list is also updated.



2) Vision Statement

===================

The previously circulated draft vision statement was discussed and updated

during the discussion and is also available at

http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/docs/oversight/ 



3) LCG support case to Science Committee

========================================

TC had sent an outline to TD suggesting to merge the old LCG Phase 2 document

together with the CRRB document from October. TD proposed to talk to TC and

then forward the proposal to the PMB.



TD reported that the he had talked to Dave Kant and the map which had been

down was now back up and improved with added GOC monitoring. See

http://map.gridpp.ac.uk/



4) Q4 2004 Reporting

====================

RJ has requested them by today. RM aims to complete by the end of January but

doesn't expect to get them to the PMB by mid February. TD hoped they could be

ready by the Collaboration Meeting. TD proposed the 15th of the month

following the quarter as a standard date.



It was agreed that the deadline for ALL logbooks was the 15th of the month

following the quarter.



It was also agreed that holidays should be included for funded posts for 

purposes of accounting for funded effort (although RM said this was

contentious within EGEE).



5) Feedback on JPhysG

=====================

TD said the PMB should be required to read the document. TD said that some

information about GridPP1 from the recent OC documents could be included. TD

proposed an editorial board might need to meet to go through the whole thing.

An unsuccessful attempt was made to find a suitable date. Eventually it was

agreed that TD, SL would go through a final iteration once all comments 

had been incorporated by SP from the collaboration.

Note: subsequently PC, TD and SL agreed to work through all parts of the 

document in a meeting in Glasgow on 19th January. SP would provide 

an update incorporating all comments received in advance of this.



REVIEW OF ACTIONS

=================

140.9  RM to finalise LCG Deployment Logbook  - ongoing



143.1  TC to investigate making existing LCG source RPMs visible at CERN -

ongoing



STANDING ITEMS

==============

SI-1 ALL: to provide any news items and meeting dates for the web page to

SP.



There was a new news item on the LHCb software meeting. There is also a BaBar

news item in preparation.



SI-2 Production Manager's weekly report of issues.



TD said all the monitoring went down at RAL over the break due to a power

cut. Everything is thought to be back up. JG said they were looking into the

issues raised. A version of the map could be cached on the server. RM said

that the services were advertised as at risk over that period. TD said that

the GridPP web pages could also be cached somewhere other than at Manchester

(in case of similar power outages etc).



Next Meeting

============

The next meeting will be on Monday 17th January. DT noted he would

report on the UB meeting where some dissatisfaction with the Tier-1 shares

was expressed.

Note: this issue was also raised at the Oversight Committee and the 

Collaboration Board, following the presentations by DB and TD.



ACTIONS AS AT 7th JANUARY 2004

==============================

140.9  RM to finalise LCG Deployment Logbook



143.1  TC to investigate making existing LCG source RPMs visible at CERN



STANDING ITEMS

==============

SI-1 ALL: to provide any news items and meeting dates for the web page to

SP.



SI-2 Production Manager's weekly report of issues.