Dear All,
Please find attached the weekly GridPP Project Management
Board Meeting minutes. The latest minutes can be found each week in:
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/php/pmb/minutes.php?latest
as well as being listed with other minutes at
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/php/pmb/minutes.php
Cheers, Tony
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Tony Doyle, GridPP Project Leader Telephone: +44-141-330 5899
Rm 478, Kelvin Building Telefax: +44-141-330 5881
Dept of Physics and Astronomy EMail: [log in to unmask]
University of Glasgow Web: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~doyle
G12 8QQ, UK Video - IP: 194.36.1.32
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GridPP PMB Minutes 166 - 4th April 2005
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Present: Tony Doyle, Tony Cass, Dave Britton, Jeremy Coles, Dan Tovey,
Steve Lloyd, Dave Kelsey, Roger Jones & Sarah Pearce. Robin Middleton &
John Gordon joined later. Most were connected by phone as there were
problems with the CoD system.
Apologies: Peter Clarke
1. J. Phys G. Status
====================
SP uploaded the full JPhysG paper for PMB final comments.
SP had a few small outstanding issues to deal with and she will go through
the references. Any final comments on the paper must be received by SP no
later than noon tomorrow as she intends to submit the paper later the same
day. TD said that SP should be commended for the excellent job she has
done in pulling the document together.
The final version is now at:
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/papers/jphysg/submitted/gridpp_submitted_050305.doc
2. Tier-1 Planning Status
=========================
TD ran through the timelines to check what still had to be done:
March 11th: Consultation draft released to Tier-1 Board. DONE
March 15th: Draft released to GridPP UB for information. DONE
March 18th: UB/PMB feedback deadline. DONE
March 21st: Tier-1 board approval. DONE
March 28th: GridPP CB approval. DONE
March 31st: Release to LCG Phase 2 planning. DONE
See
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/tier1a/board/doc/LCG_MoU_output_Mar05.doc
April 4th: Circulation of Tier-1 Global Planning Figures. DONE
See P2P forwarded e-mail from this morning.
April 11th: Tier-1 Board finalisation.
(inc. briefing document to PPARC shortly after, prior to RRB)
April 14th: Phase-2 planning finalisation meeting
[coincides with the PMB F2F @ IC]
April 19th: RRB
TD asked SL if there had been any feedback from the CB on the planning
document and he said he had received some minor comments from Peter
Watkins (incorporated in v26b).
TD had forwarded the phase2 planning figures from Chris Eck and had
received comments from Dave Newbold to which he had responded. It was
noted that Tier-1 was not a large as other planned developments in 2008
but it was up to PPARC to follow this up and plan accordingly. TD said he
was preparing an agenda for the Tier-1 Board for next Monday and asked if
any non-Tier-1 Board members could pass any comments to him. He added that
a briefing document had been sent to Janet Seed and that she was being
kept informed of what's happening. He said it was unfortunate that the
Phase-2 Planning meeting would clash with the PMB face-to-face meeting but
it was hoped that Tier-1 members may be able to join the meeting at some
stage.
The RRB will take place on 19th April, this will then conclude the
planning for Tier-1 and Tier-2 as input to the LCG MoUs.
3. Tier-2 hardware proposal status
==================================
JC provided the following URL for information from Scotgrid and Southgrid
who have put forward bids for funding:
https://www.gridpp.ac.uk/production_manager/pmb/pmb.html
(Further bids from Northgrid and London Tier-2 were received later in the
day). RJ asked about the cases for front end machines and TD said this
would be discussed in greater detail at the face to face including the
VMWARE licensing partnership.
4. Middleware hardware proposal status
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RM has forwarded JC's email asking for middleware requirements with a
deadline of Friday 8th April, so that these can also be taken into account
at the F2F.
5. F2F issues inputs
====================
DB said he was waiting on input on deployment from DK, however DK felt
that most of this had been covered by JC but would look into it. JG said
he would forward his input this afternoon.
6. Quarterly reports
====================
TD asked for an update as to where everyone was with these. RJ said he
had received very little so far as people were working on extracts for
AHM. JC said he had received some reports. SL had received 1 Tier-2
report and there were 3 outstanding. AS is working on the Tier-1 report.
RM said he had received 2 reports from 6. TD asked if everyone could
respond in time for the meeting on 14th April noting that the
usual quarterly deadline to the PMB is 15th April.
TD wished to discuss the reporting line for Grid Data Management asking if
the six middleware support roles should report to someone other that RM
(as assumed in the metadata/GDM 05Q1 return).
DB said an agreement was already in place noting that RM was the line
manager receiving quarterly reports for these areas. Support posts [FTE]
affected are
Security [1.0]
VO Management [0.5]
Resource Broker [1.0]
Network [0.5]
Data Management [1.0]
Storage Management [1.0]
Subsequent discussion took place to ensure that these reporting lines were
appropriate in each case.
7. F2F agenda
=============
DB said he would send out a draft agenda tomorrow.
AOB
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TD asked SP for an update on AHM abstracts. She said she had received 14
so far including: Networking; Data Management; Storage; Certification
Authority; Hep Metadata; Portals; Deployment; ATLAS deployment. It was
understood that the deadline may have been extended for submissions. JG
said he would check that this was the case and if so, SP would send a
reminder to those who still wish to submit. (NEW ACTION)
TD said he had received a response to his email regarding the slow
response of the CoD web management system. He has been informed that a
new interface is being developed at the moment and will be put into
service shortly.
Paul Millar and Graeme Stewart asked if anyone had problems with the
Boston email list. They had both asked to be removed some time ago but
were still receiving emails. None of the PMB members were
experiencing or were aware of other problems with this.
DT asked about the status with new appointments for Tier-1. JG said the
adverts for 4 appointments were just going out now. DT asked about
getting UK help for ALICE on the Grid in the meantime.
TD said they should be directed to Steven Burke and Roger Jones.
TD also noted that SL's IoP talk on how to submit a job to the Grid was
useful in the context.
Actions
=======
157.2: RJ - review experiment computing models for Tier-1 to Tier-2
interactions in the UK.
ongoing - a one page outline will be submitted to the face-to-face
157.4: TD to co-ordinate development of Tier-1 allocation policy.
done
157.5: DB to co-ordinate development of new risk register.
ongoing - RM will supply info before the end of the day
157.9: RM to report on direction of GridPP in terms of middleware.
ongoing - gLite 1.0 was released on Wednesday. See
http://glite.web.cern.ch/glite/packages/R1.0/R20050331
and
http://glite.web.cern.ch/glite/documentation
157.12: SP to provide standard template talk for schools.
ongoing - SP, SL and new Events Officer (Bekki Pearce) have had several
meetings via SKYPE. BP will be working on this
159.1: TC to complete LCG Risk Assessment Forms
done
159.2: RM to complete Middleware Risk Assessment Forms
ongoing - will be completed this afternoon
159.7: NG to complete Interoperability Risk Assessment Forms
ongoing
159.8: DB to complete General Risk Assessment Forms
ongoing
159.11: RJ to make Andrew fully aware of ATLAS plans
ongoing - will be done before next Monday
159.13: TC to extract LCG issues from GridPP12 talks
ongoing
159.14: RM to extract Middleware issues from GridPP12 talks
ongoing - on hold at the moment
159.19: DB to make list of all GridPP people and their roles
ongoing
165.1: TD to contact Rhys Newman to establish a partnership
for providing VMWARE licenses (costing up to £1-2k)
done
NEW ACTION 166.1: SP to send reminder to UKHEPGRID about abstracts for AHM
(only if deadline has been extended - waiting on confirmation of this)
done - this was done on 5th April
Standing Items
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SI-1 ALL: to provide any news items and meeting dates for the web page to SP.
SP said an item on Service Challenges was being prepared by CERN and Fermilab
Challenges. Other potential news items were on the monitoring applet and
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SI-2 Production Manager's weekly report of issues.
1) JC had provided the URL for the agenda for the Storage Management
Workshop which will be looking ahead to the components required for
Service Challenge 3
http://agenda.cern.ch/fullAgenda.php?ida=a051050
2) LCG 2.4.0 has been tagged but sites are being advised to await test
site feedback before attempting the upgrade - to be discussed at a DTEAM
meeting this afternoon.
3) Latest information on SC2 progress can be seen here
http://challenge.matrix.sara.nl/SC/
ACTIONS AS AT 4TH APRIL 2005
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157.2: RJ - review experiment computing models for Tier-1 to Tier-2
interactions in the UK.
157.5: DB to co-ordinate development of new risk register.
157.9: RM to report on direction of GridPP in terms of middleware.
157.12: SP to provide standard template talk for schools.
159.2: RM to complete Middleware Risk Assessment Forms
159.7: NG to complete Interoperability Risk Assessment Forms
159.8: DB to complete General Risk Assessment Forms
159.11: RJ to make Andrew fully aware of ATLAS plans
159.13: TC to extract LCG issues from GridPP12 talks
159.14: RM to extract Middleware issues from GridPP12 talks
159.19: DB to make list of all GridPP people and their roles
STANDING ITEMS
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SI-1 ALL: to provide any news items and meeting dates for the web page to
SP.
SI-2 Production Manager's weekly report of issues.
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